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Offline mike tesko

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Haunting face of Ralph Bamber, and other victims...
« on: February 11, 2012, 09:50:PM »
Haunting face of Ralph Bamber, and other victims...

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Re: Haunting face of Ralph Bamber, and other victims...
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 10:00:PM »
Twins, Daniel and Nicholas:-
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 10:00:PM »
Mike it looks like you're attempting to portray some kind of bad acid trip for Sheila.  Is there any professional opinions that could back this up, i.e. regarding what she may have experienced in an 'episode' or 'seizure'.

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 10:25:PM »
Mike it looks like you're attempting to portray some kind of bad acid trip for Sheila.  Is there any professional opinions that could back this up, i.e. regarding what she may have experienced in an 'episode' or 'seizure'.

Yes, I believe that Sheila was obviously in an extremely confused state of mind when she carried out the four murders, and that she did not know what she was doing, or what she had done, and no-one can say that whilst her mind dealt with the onset of pyschosis she was not herself, she did things which the 'normal' Sheila would almost certainly not have done. This is where what the relatives have said could have a ring of truth about it, in the sense that under normal circumstances Sheila would not and could not have done the things she was or had been accused of doing? That approach is fine, and I could go along with it to a certain extent even though I did not know Sheila personally, and I never met her - but once she came under the influence of her psychosis that would be, and is a very different matter, in my opinion...

Her insanity took over, and she could not control what took place, she would have literally gone berserk, not really knowing or understanding what she was doing and why she was doing it...

Madness, at its extreme with deadly consequences for everyone, including Sheila herself...
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 10:51:PM »
Mike it looks like you're attempting to portray some kind of bad acid trip for Sheila.  Is there any professional opinions that could back this up, i.e. regarding what she may have experienced in an 'episode' or 'seizure'.


Hi Rocky,

Freddie said in his statement that during Sheila's penultimate psychotic episode, she no longer recognised members of her family. She believed her family and Freddie too were all demons. Freddie was afraid of what Sheila might do and feared for the safety of everyone around Sheila. These are massive hallucinations to have had.

I believe these hallucinations occurred prior to Sheila being prescribed Haliperidol and other mind altering medication - to damp down her paranoid schizophrenia and psychotic attacks.

Prior to the murders, Sheila's Haliperidol dosage was suddenly, dramatically reduced by 50%. Such sudden and radical reduction of medication was contrary to accepted practice. Schizophrenics and psychotics must be taken off Haliperidol very slowly and gradually, with the effects of small reductions of around 10% carefully monitored for adverse reactions before any further reduction is made. Sheila's response does not appear to have been monitored.

The other medication Sheila was on, one which counteracted the mood depressing effects of Haliperidol, does not appear to have been reduced at the time the Haliperidol was. So Sheila was under dosed on Haliperidol and over dosed on the other medication. 

Given that poor Sheila hallucinated her family and Freddie into demons prior to Sheila being placed on balanced dosages of medication, I believe it may be quite conceivable that a drastic imbalance in her medication had Sheila dangerously hallucinating again.

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Re: Haunting face of Ralph Bamber, and other victims...
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 11:54:PM »
Isn't that a reflection of the photographer in the first two pictures? Was the photograph taken from a moving vehicle?

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 08:07:AM »
Isn't that a reflection of the photographer in the first two pictures? Was the photograph taken from a moving vehicle?

Inside a stationary vehicle...

There was only me present when I took these images, at least I think there was (WHOOOOAAGHHHH)....
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Re: Haunting face of Ralph Bamber, and other victims...
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 05:05:PM »
So is the apparent human figure just below the letters TP in the (first) picture an image of your own reflection?

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 05:05:PM »
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Yes, I believe that Sheila was obviously in an extremely confused state of mind when she carried out the four murders, and that she did not know what she was doing, or what she had done, and no-one can say that whilst her mind dealt with the onset of pyschosis she was not herself, she did things which the 'normal' Sheila would almost certainly not have done. This is where what the relatives have said could have a ring of truth about it, in the sense that under normal circumstances Sheila would not and could not have done the things she was or had been accused of doing? That approach is fine, and I could go along with it to a certain extent even though I did not know Sheila personally, and I never met her - but once she came under the influence of her psychosis that would be, and is a very different matter, in my opinion..

Totally agree with the content here.

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 05:09:PM »
Keira I am aware of the Freddie statement and the Haloperidol reduction.  I'm not sure that this necessarily indicates the kind of visual hallucinations as depicted by Mike on this thread.

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 07:33:PM »
Keira I am aware of the Freddie statement and the Haloperidol reduction.  I'm not sure that this necessarily indicates the kind of visual hallucinations as depicted by Mike on this thread.

She had also been smoking cannabis...
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 07:41:PM »
So is the apparent human figure just below the letters TP in the (first) picture an image of your own reflection?

No, of course not...

Here look at these and explain how the image of the face shown managed to manifest itself onto the face of the dashboard?
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 07:52:PM »
She had also been smoking cannabis...

I wouldn't normally associate cannabis with visual hallucinations. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2012, 08:02:PM »
I wouldn't normally associate cannabis with visual hallucinations.

If taken with haloperidol and the other drugs she had been taking, and the nature of her illness, my understanding is that she may have been prone to hallucinations of an extreme nature, where she had a distorted view of reality...
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Re: Haunting face of Ralph Bamber, and other victims...
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 06:07:PM »
No, of course not...

Here look at these and explain how the image of the face shown managed to manifest itself onto the face of the dashboard?




Mike, these pictures are so freaky and it's taken me a couple of days to be able to look at them :-[

However, I have to ask - what made you take photos inside your car in the first place?  And what track (5) were you listening to?  :)