Blood in Jeremy's car?

[grahameb]

I've never been there, or intend going there, although some on here have suggested that's where I should go!!

No no Nick. You misunderstood. They told you to go to hell.  (only joking)

[tyler]

The "alleged" blood being found on the passenger car seat of the citroen and on an article of Jeremys clothing is,if I remember correctly,mentioned in Clare Powells book?I have never heard of it anywhere else and also,if true,the prosecution would have surely mentioned it in court?

[Newbury1]

No no Nick. You misunderstood. They told you to go to hell.  (only joking)

Ah! that's not so bad then!

[grahameb]

The "alleged" blood being found on the passenger car seat of the citroen and on an article of Jeremys clothing is,if I remember correctly,mentioned in Clare Powells book?I have never heard of it anywhere else and also,if true,the prosecution would have surely mentioned it in court?

That's an interesting point to consider though? If it was true about this blood in the car that rules out the bike.

[Newbury1]

That's an interesting point to consider though? If it was true about this blood in the car that rules out the bike.

I'm still baffled as to how the bike was ruled in!

[grahameb]

I'm still baffled as to how the bike was ruled in!

I think it was one of those things that Robert Boutflour stated in his silly diary?

[Newbury1]

I think it was one of those things that Robert Boutflour stated in his silly diary?

I know I go on a bit about Rivlin, but no blood (or any other evidence) on the bike; no tyre tracks - nothing - and yet the prosecution presented this as the form of transpot used after killing 5 members of your family - and Rivlin could not undermine the prosection on the transport issue - amazing!

I would like to know what the Jury actually thought of this - it could be that the Jury having been swayed by the other "evidence" (mainly the silencer) simply accepted the bike theory?

[grahameb]

I know I go on a bit about Rivlin, but no blood (or any other evidence) on the bike; no tyre tracks - nothing - and yet the prosecution presented this as the form of transpot used after killing 5 members of your family - and Rivlin could not undermine the prosection on the transport issue - amazing!

I would like to know what the Jury actually thought of this - it could be that the Jury having been swayed by the other "evidence" (mainly the silencer) simply accepted the bike theory?

I don't like saying this but Jeremy's defence was (by hindsight) appalling. Perhaps they simply thought that the prosecution's case was so weak that Jeremy would be found not guilty? Until the Judge's summing up and I think that his words added great weight to the prosecution's case?

[Newbury1]

I don't like saying this but Jeremy's defence was (by hindsight) appalling. Perhaps they simply thought that the prosecution's case was so weak that Jeremy would be found not guilty? Until the Judge's summing up and I think that his words added great weight to the prosecution's case?

I have raised this before; but I  have a slight niggle that suggests to me maybe even Rivlin did not quite believe the JB story. This has been refuted on the forum.

Clearly any defense lawyer has to promote the fact that they believe the defendant innocent as coming out later with "I always thought he/she was guilty" will clearly enable any subsequent defense team to point out this obvious weakness in the original defences stance on the case.

I.e the defence has to be seen to do their best for their client!

Circuit Bench Retirement - Rivlin QC
01 September 2011

His Honour Judge Geoffrey Rivlin QC retires as a Senior Circuit Judge on 1 September 2011.

As Rivlin is now retired (and a member of the public) it would be interesting to see if he pops in supporting JB's ongoing appeal (afterall he should have significant knowledge of the case)?

Do you think S Mck has had any contact with Rivlin?

[ngb1066]

I have raised this before; but I  have a slight niggle that suggests to me maybe even Rivlin did not quite believe the JB story. This has been refuted on the forum.

Clearly any defense lawyer has to promote the fact that they believe the defendant innocent as coming out later with "I always thought he/she was guilty" will clearly enable any subsequent defense team to point out this obvious weakness in the original defences stance on the case.

I.e the defence has to be seen to do their best for their client!

Circuit Bench Retirement - Rivlin QC
01 September 2011

His Honour Judge Geoffrey Rivlin QC retires as a Senior Circuit Judge on 1 September 2011.

As Rivlin is now retired (and a member of the public) it would be interesting to see if he pops in supporting JB's ongoing appeal (afterall he should have significant knowledge of the case)?

Do you think S Mck has had any contact with Rivlin?

I do not believe Simon McKay has been in contact with Geoffrey Rivlin, but Jeremy's previous solicitors did contact him and he was very helpful to the defence, as was his junior at the trial Ed Lawson.