BBC NEWS: Jeremy loses final appeal against whole-life tariff to ECHR

[slaters]

"MURDERERS LOSE APPEAL AGAINST WHOLE LIFE TARIFF

Britain's most dangerous criminals can be kept behind bars for the rest of their lives, judges at the European Court of Human Rights have ruled.

Killers Jeremy Bamber, Peter Moore and Douglas Vinter had asked the court to rule on whole life sentences.

The murderers said condemning them to die in prison amounts to "inhuman or degrading treatment". They argued all sentences should be regularly reviewed.

The Ministry of Justice said the government welcomed this decision.

Bamber was jailed for shooting five members of his family dead in Essex in 1986.

He has always protested his innocence, claiming his schizophrenic sister shot the victims before turning the gun on herself at their farmhouse at Tolleshunt D'Arcy."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16591164

[andrea]

Jb said he will be dead next time he leaves jail, is he not hopefull of an appeal?

[nugnug]

i dont think it would have made any difference if he had won it.

[andrea]

You mean "won" nugnug, sorry about that, couldnt resist

[nugnug]

thats what i typed look

[sc82]

i dont think it would have made any difference if he had won it.

To be fair it wouldn't have made much of a difference. He wouldn't have been released unless he was willing to admit his guilt and show remorse to the parole board. Which he's not very likely to do.

[andrea]

thats what i typed look

yes you corrected it at 18mins past 

[ngb1066]

Jb said he will be dead next time he leaves jail, is he not hopefull of an appeal?

Jeremy remains very hopeful that he will secure a further appeal and succeed in overturning his convictions in 2012.  He is philosophical about losing in the ECHR - that case was very much a secondary issue for him. 

[grahameb]

I stand amazed actually. That the courts can impose a whole life tariff on someone who was given a specific term of imprisonment without further evidence presented that warranted a change in sentence? It seems to be much easier for the government to impose greater sentences upon people without any kind of hearing than appealing against a conviction?

[nugnug]

if his guilty then i cant say that he dosent deserve to spend the rest of his life in jail and when setting a tariff they dont take claims of innocence into account they assume you are guilty.