Author Topic: And so to the truth of the matter (how Sheila communicated with police)?  (Read 15128 times)

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Offline grahameb

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You've got to be kidding me here! Sheila barking. Now I've heard it all...  :o
Personally I think the "conversation with someone from within the farmhouse" was simply with Jeremy, and the noises heard from within the farmhouse were the dog barking.
Until I see evidence of it being other than that, I stand firm - without barking and all!
I remember Robert Boutflour said she was barking. Or something similar? ::)

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I remember Robert Boutflour said she was barking. Or something similar? ::)

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Meaning she was to him barking mad. Or words to that effect.

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Barking mad does not a murderer make......but it's a good start!

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Barking mad does not a murderer make......but it's a good start!
Janet, You seem to be changing your views very quickly from JB innocent to JB guilty?

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not quite sure makes healthy debate

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Janet, You seem to be changing your views very quickly from JB innocent to JB guilty?

Maybe she is just saying what she sees without pitching her tent in either court.  :-\

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Maybe she is just saying what she sees without pitching her tent in either court.  :-\
Yes possibly?

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Maybe she is just saying what she sees without pitching her tent in either court.  :-\
If someone is not sure there should be no reason to after all the verdict was guilty everyone went back home on that day everyone bar Jeremy Bamber why the 2 tents?

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If someone is not sure there should be no reason to after all the verdict was guilty everyone went back home on that day everyone bar Jeremy Bamber why the 2 tents?

I think I should invest in a Tom-Tom, I keep getting lost.  :-[

Sorry mertol, can you expand?

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You all really need to pay attention...

I am not saying Sheila was literally barking like a dog, what I am saying is that this is how police later described such communications. Fact is, Sheila screamed obscenities, she ranted and raved, she howled like a wolf, she roared like a lion, she bellowed like a grizzly bear, she whined like a dog, cried like a baby, laughed like an hysterical clown, murmured, shouted, sang like an angel, cursed the police like a devil - and the police recorded all of these exchanges, as a dog barking...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 07:33:AM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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You all really need to pay attention...

I am not saying Sheila was literally barking like a dog, what I am saying is that this is how police later described such communications. Fact is, Sheila screamed obscenities, she ranted and raved, she howled like a wolf, she roared like a lion, she bellowed like a grizzly bear, she whined like a dog, cried like a baby, laughed like an hysterical clown, murmured, shouted, sang like an angel, cursed the police like a devil - and the police recorded all of these exchanges, as a dog barking...

In some instances, police were not sure that what they were hearing was Sheila, or the dog, or vice versa...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 07:35:AM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Furthermore...

The way these communications, or conversations, and exchanges were recorded between the police outside the farmhouse, and Sheila inside, has so far not yet been disclosed, or admitted to by the police, but such exchanges were real and kept the police at bay for over three and a half hours, albeit there was only a one hour period between about 5:25am and 6:30am, when these communications took place...

Essex police are withholding the evidence that Sheila was still alive, inside the farmhouse, under pii...

The logs which have been released thus far only tell part of the story, and have themselves in parts been edited...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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No direct record has yet been published of communications between members of the raid team and (a) each other, (b) senior officers at the scene in the command post situated in a nearby outbuilding, (d) other officers at the scene who conducted duties of containment and support, (e) the control room, and (f) senior officers elsewhere...

All that has thus far been disclosed, are fragmented and incomplete messages, passed in the main by the occupants of CA07 from the scene, to the control room - but CA07 occupants had to get their information from another source, because none of these three police officers (PS Bews, PC Myall or PS saxby) were part of the firearms team, and none entered the farmhouse at any stage...

The closest two of them (PS Bews, PC Myall and Jeremy) got to the farmhouse was at about 4am when they saw the person/figure at the bedroom window, and dashed out of the grounds of the farmhouse back to the patrol car, to pass the request for the firearms team to be deployed to the scene because of what they had been witnessing...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 07:52:AM by mike tesko »
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There would have been and were parts of these exchanges which the firearms team could not differentiate between Sheila and the dog inside the farmhouse, and other exchanges which there could be no doubt at all, that were being made by Sheila...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 07:54:AM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...