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Offline jon

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2012, 10:53:PM »
It is not something which I have said, hence the fact the you are lying

You have a once in a life time opportunity to prove me wrong, go for it.

(PS. Try a search for Oakey or Oakley, that might help).

I'll wait with baited breath.  ::)
You said word's to the effect ' that you had been told that Oakey had picked up a sight ' and you were obviously told by someone who would know , care to say who ? 

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #196 on: January 11, 2012, 10:55:PM »
Explain to us all , what happened when Mr Boutflour called EP in September saying ' he had a silencer to be picked up ' !! Can you also tell us who told you ?

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #197 on: January 11, 2012, 11:13:PM »
Huh?  ???

Why do people lie?
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Mugford the expert
 Why do people lie?

Maybe sitting is uncomfortable.  ::)
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #198 on: January 11, 2012, 11:17:PM »
Producer & director jackie.



Vidvic please share your showreel I am sure the whole forum would be interested


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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2012, 11:29:PM »
You said word's to the effect ' that you had been told that Oakey had picked up a sight ' and you were obviously told by someone who would know , care to say who ?

As I said, why do people lie.  ::)

So what you are now saying, is that I have never said that David or Robert mistook a sight for a moderator or vice versa? That is correct is it not? That is the complete and utter honest truth, of which there is evidence in the form of posts on this forum to check, is it not?

So it is also therefore true that you have lied your arse off, is it not?

Sorry, you failed abysmally in your once in a life time opportunity.  ::)

Sheesh.  ::)
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #200 on: January 11, 2012, 11:42:PM »
Mike have you anything on how the press were given details on that day, were they off pages lane , did they take any pictures of these Ambulances?
If I remember correctly from the tv news pictures all the filming was taken from a field opposite and some distance from the house. There were police cars blocking the entrance of Pages Lane. I don't remember seeing any ambulances?
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #201 on: January 12, 2012, 12:49:AM »


Vidvic please share your showreel I am sure the whole forum would be interested

That's a brilliant attitude for the campaign to adopt!! Let's try to belittle someone that works in newsrooms that you might well need publicity from. Smart one Jackie. As for all the journo's interested in the case, where are they all? They certainly aren't writing about bamber! If the ccrc refuse the appeal it will be a non story, because at national level editors thought it was already refused. If it gets another appeal it will make news because it's a 2nd go.
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #202 on: January 12, 2012, 01:09:AM »
If I remember correctly from the tv news pictures all the filming was taken from a field opposite and some distance from the house. There were police cars blocking the entrance of Pages Lane. I don't remember seeing any ambulances?
Most of the anglia stuff was filmed by a guy called Tony jewers. 1985 was first year anglia used video, but some news was still shot on film.
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #203 on: January 12, 2012, 01:24:AM »
As I said, why do people lie.  ::)

So what you are now saying, is that I have never said that David or Robert mistook a sight for a moderator or vice versa? That is correct is it not? That is the complete and utter honest truth, of which there is evidence in the form of posts on this forum to check, is it not?

So it is also therefore true that you have lied your arse off, is it not?

Sorry, you failed abysmally in your once in a life time opportunity.  ::)

Sheesh.  ::)
You said , ' you was informed it was a sight , Oakey picked up not a silencer ' is that correct ? Who told you ? Give us your version of event's over EP log , that they had to pick up a silencer in September from the family , explain so there can be no confusing , what happened ?

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #204 on: January 12, 2012, 01:42:AM »
Vidvic incase you try and make out you don't read the forum I have no influence over what the official campaign team do and they have decided not to do anything to draw attention to this case  with the general public.

I couldn't give a toss about your opinion of me because anyone who believes Mugford and knows about the NOTW deal has no credibility in my eyes

You or Hartley have not come up with a decent answer as to why you believe Mugford when she was previously shown to be a cunning liar

Please publish the names of the journalist s who believe Jb is guilty and their email addresses and I can see if you are telling the truth

This case is a joke a man convicted on the flimsiest of evidence to a full life sentence

Vidvic go and make up stories to someone else because 95% of people on this forum believe Mugford was telling lies  and the silencer was planted

Vidvic please explain why Jeremy did not have a single mark on him after his alleged viscous fight with Neville
There was no marks on jb Because it never happened did it

Hartley

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #205 on: January 12, 2012, 07:36:AM »
You said , ' you was informed it was a sight , Oakey picked up not a silencer ' is that correct ? Who told you ? Give us your version of event's over EP log , that they ha d to pick up a silencer in September from the family , explain so there can be no confusing , what happened ?

What, again? How many times do I need to repeat myself? I don't care what your opinion is because you've clearly lied and tried to twist things, as is detailed in the last couple of posts.

So for your benefit only and for the very last time, the sound moderator was collected from Oak farm on the 12/8/85 and the Nikon sight was collected by Oakey, from Ann at Oak Farm on 11/9/85.

That's it, you want to disagree, that's fine, but you can't go around knowingly lying about what I have said and then expect me to give you the time of day.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #206 on: January 12, 2012, 07:56:AM »
Vidvic incase you try and make out you don't read the forum I have no influence over what the official campaign team do and they have decided not to do anything to draw attention to this case  with the general public.

I couldn't give a toss about your opinion of me because anyone who believes Mugford and knows about the NOTW deal has no credibility in my eyes

You or Hartley have not come up with a decent answer as to why you believe Mugford when she was previously shown to be a cunning liar

Please publish the names of the journalist s who believe Jb is guilty and their email addresses and I can see if you are telling the truth

This case is a joke a man convicted on the flimsiest of evidence to a full life sentence

Vidvic go and make up stories to someone else because 95% of people on this forum believe Mugford was telling lies  and the silencer was planted

Vidvic please explain why Jeremy did not have a single mark on him after his alleged viscous fight with Neville
There was no marks on jb Because it never happened did it

Jackie, you are of course entitled to your own  opinion, however if I can just pick out your point regarding Julie. You claim that she lied at the original trial, that's fair enough, but the jury decided otherwise. You then say that Julie lied during the 2002 appeal in the statements she gave, which contradict her original statements, the Appeal Judges noticed these descrepancies also, they also noticed that the bank managers statements contain some gaps, such as whether a police officer (DC Jones) was present at the bank. However, the Appeal Judges took all of this into consideration and put the descrepancies down to 16 years going by rather than witnesses lying, all of this is very clearly described and detailed in the 2002 Appeal Judgement.

So you thing she lied, the Jury, two panels of Appeal Judges, the CCRC and little old me, disagree with you, no toss involved.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #207 on: January 12, 2012, 09:23:AM »
Who claimed there real name was Steve Augi?
oh that was Hartley was it not...oh yes.
And now he says he has never told us his true identity.
So it was a lie.
And another lie is when he claims to be honest when clearly he is not.
If persons wish to claim Hartley is honest and decent when evidence shows otherwise then it shows what poor judgement they seem to have or that they too are blatantly dishonest.

telling it like it is.

Hartley also claimed I was using multiple user names on this forum and that he had evidence...which he did not which was another lie.
etc etc etc.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #208 on: January 12, 2012, 09:30:AM »
Most of the anglia stuff was filmed by a guy called Tony jewers. 1985 was first year anglia used video, but some news was still shot on film.
All I remember is that no one could get anywhere near the house. It's quite a way up Pages Lane as you know and is surrounded by trees for the most part. Although I've never personally been up Pages Lane. The nearest I got was to Frame Farm just up the road back towards Maldon. Never had any dealings with the Bambers or Boutflours. Although I did get to know a few farmers.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #209 on: January 12, 2012, 09:39:AM »
Who claimed there real name was Steve Augi?
oh that was Hartley was it not...oh yes.
And now he says he has never told us his true identity.
So it was a lie.
And another lie is when he claims to be honest when clearly he is not.
If persons wish to claim Hartley is honest and decent when evidence shows otherwise then it shows what poor judgement they seem to have or that they too are blatantly dishonest.

telling it like it is.

Hartley also claimed I was using multiple user names on this forum and that he had evidence...which he did not which was another lie.
etc etc etc.

Thank you for your valued input Smiffy, very much appreciated.