Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse

[HMEssex]

Why did Sheila stop screaming and ranting and raving at about 6:30am?

What happens with regard to ambulance calls?  Are they deleted/hidden under pii too?  Is there not a record of their responses/statements etc?

[mike tesko]

Why would Sheila be screaming?

Somebody, or something must have been upsetting her, she was that upset that her screaming kept the police from trying to force their way into the farmhouse. Why only send for two ambulances if there were five occupants inside whf? What did the police know at 6:30am, what we haven't been told about, yet?

Why only one ambulance to the scene at that time?

[mike tesko]

What happens with regard to ambulance calls?  Are they deleted/hidden under pii too?  Is there not a record of their responses/statements etc?

There is no official record of who called them out to the scene, or the reason why they were called out to the scene, or anything about why one ambulance was required for immediate use at the house, whilst the other was on standby in pages lane. It would be interesting to find out the reason why these two ambulances were called out to the scene at that time?

Both ambulances arrived at the scene at more or less the same time as the second group of firearms officers at about 7am, who in turn had been requested to attend the scene at the same time as the ambulances had been requested - clearly the added presence of these extra firearms officers and the two ambulances at the scene arriving there at about 7am, was obviously linked to something which took place, or occurred inside whf at about 6:30am...

[mike tesko]

Is it the case that the two ambulances were called to the scene and arrived at the same time as the second group of firearms officers because the raid team was preparing to force an entry into the farmhouse with the intention of shooting dead Sheila if the opportunity arose? Were the police instructed to shoot to wound Sheila, rather than shoot to kill her, and was that the reason why only one ambulance was required at the house immediately, with another one on standby?

Was the mysterious "Dr Harris" present at the scene, at this time?

There could be some mileage in this proposition...

[grahameb]

I apologise jackie. I've only been in tv news 23 years, so I'm sure you know more journo's than little old me.

25 years you say? Hardly worth mentioning really is it?

[grahameb]

Mike I really would love to have some documentary evidence for all this. It would make your case watertight.

[HMEssex]

Is it the case that the two ambulances were called to the scene and arrived at the same time as the second group of firearms officers because the raid team was preparing to force an entry into the farmhouse with the intention of shooting dead Sheila if the opportunity arose? Were the police instructed to shoot to wound Sheila, rather than shoot to kill her, and was that the reason why only one ambulance was required at the house immediately, with another one on standby?

There could be some mileage in this proposition...

Yes, that was what I was wondering.

I think it's people like the ambulance crews, which were on scene but not involved, who could add light on what was happening.   I know, obviously, they are there to save lives where possible and need to remain neutral, but it wasn't a Red Cross situation and it would be great if one of them would come forward to explain!

[mike tesko]

Mike I really would love to have some documentary evidence for all this. It would make your case watertight.

I will dig out what  can find...

[mike tesko]

Another letter written over two years ago, which contained confidential information, that we all know about now, relating to the additional  that were made on the front face of the aga surround on 11th September 1985, back up by photographic proof taken by PC Bird (soc) on that date...

So, now we know the silencer and paint evidence was/is/has been fabricated and that the prosecution secured these convictions based upon a reliance upon that evidence...

The three pictures jeremy was referring to, could be these three:-

One taken at scene showing aga on 7th August 1985, with no marks on front fascia of aga
Another taken on 11th September 1985, showing same fascia with no scratch marks present, and
another showing the same fascia with scratch marks gouged into the aga surround...

[grahameb]

I will dig out what  can find...

Thanks Mike.

[Hartley]

Do you think next time you are with Mr Boutflour , you could ask him , how he mistook a sight for silencer , as Hartley claimed ? Did he tell EP ' pick up a silencer ' on the 11 Sept or not ?

Huh? 

Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?

Maybe sitting is uncomfortable. 
 

[jon]

Huh? 

Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?
 Why do people lie?

Maybe sitting is uncomfortable. 
 

You know all about lying , but still i don't understand , care to explain ? Or do you want to repeat your classic claim , they mistook a sight for a silencer ? On what date ?

[mertol22]

Mike have you anything on how the press were given details on that day, were they off pages lane , did they take any pictures of these Ambulances?

[vidvic]

Vidvic you are I believe a cameraman end of the food chain don't think you can come on here with those credentials and make us believe you know what all journalists think

You are the friend of people that WOULD be charged and likely go to prison if it is proved the silencer was planted

Everyone on here is impartial to the case except you and Hartley

You know the truth you just choose not to admit it

The truth always comes out in the end

Poor Eddie Gilfoyle

Producer & director jackie.

[Hartley]

You know all about lying , but still i don't understand , care to explain ? Or do you want to repeat your classic claim , they mistook a sight for a silencer ? On what date ?

It is not something which I have said, hence the fact the you are lying

You have a once in a life time opportunity to prove me wrong, go for it.

(PS. Try a search for Oakey or Oakley, that might help).

I'll wait with baited breath.