Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse

[mike tesko]

I dont want to piss on your parade Mike, but instead of threatening to expose "idiot" whoever you think he/she may be.

Why dont you just reveal to us who Z is, and "out" him instead, he's the one making claims etc, that we havent seen proof of yet.

I am not allowed to...

[Hartley]

I would rather not be the person who does this, but I might have to identify this person and post photographs of him if he carries on telling lies, without any proof to back up what comes out of that cess pit of a gob that belongs to him...

No, you please do that for me, you have my full permission. The reason for that is because you have no idea who I am, it would be impossible for you to know that, even if I told you who I was, you would not know me or have even heard of me. All as explained to NGB yesterday.

So yet again, another 'FALSE' allegation from someone who makes so many of them. 

[Hartley]

I think the idiot has identified himself...

I have northing more to say to the idiot, or about him - other than why doesn't he post a true image of himself since he is making such serious allegations?

What allegations am I making? I have showed you to be somewhat unconventional with the truth on countless occasions, and again am simply asking, or rather inviting you to provide evidence of what you are stating as the truth, or in turn, be transparent and admit to people that they are simply theories, uncorroborated and unfounded theories.

[mike tesko]

Police have possession of evidence on audio tape recordings that Sheila was still very much alive inside whf after their arrival there, and if they disclosed the audio tapes upon which this evidence is contained, no-one will be in any doubt whatsoever that Sheila was not dead by the time Jeremy contacted the police. This being the case, Jeremy could not have shot her in the bedroom, with or without a silencer fitted to the guns barrel, and he could not have stage managed her body, to make it look like a suicide, as alleged by the prosecution at Jeremy's trial...

[mike tesko]

Since the idiot does not object to me posting images of him/her, why doesn't he/she simply identify himself/herself to all the other members to show how honest he/she is, and refrain from hiding behind a false identity, in view of the serious allegations the idiot is/has been making?

[Hartley]

Police have possession of evidence on audio tape recordings that Sheila was still very much alive inside whf after their arrival there, and if they disclosed the audio tapes upon which this evidence is contained, no-one will be in any doubt whatsoever that Sheila was not dead by the time Jeremy contacted the police. This being the case, Jeremy could not have shot her in the bedroom, with or without a silencer fitted to the guns barrel, and he could not have stage managed her body, to make it look like a suicide, as alleged by the prosecution at Jeremy's trial...

Again, and if anybody else disagrees with me here then please let me know, but Mike, prove it, tell us, or rather show us the source of this allegation. If you cannot then it is completely worthless.

[mike tesko]

To everyone, and anyone, who is interested in the truth, all 999 calls are automatically recorded on audio tape, and since the line to whf was patched through to the control room by the operator using the 999 emergency system, the monitoring of the link up to the scene, would have automatically been recorded...

[Hartley]

Since the idiot does not object to me posting images of him/her, why doesn't he/she simply identify themselves to all the other members to show how honest he/she is, and refrain from hiding behind a false identity, in view of the serious allegations the idiot is/has been making?

My Christian name is Steve, my surname is none of your biscuits, which is coincidently, about the same level of information that 90% of other forum members have been willing to share.

Would you care to inform the other members of this forum, what serious allegations you think I have made, please enlighten them (and me).

[Hartley]

To everyone, and anyone, who is interested in the truth, all 999 calls are automatically recorded on audio tape, and since the line to whf was patched through to the control room by the operator using the 999 emergency system, the monitoring of the link up to the scene, would have automatically been recorded...

Would you also care to inform people what the policy is for deleting these recordings?

[mike tesko]

To everyone, and anyone, who is interested in the truth, all 999 calls are automatically recorded on audio tape, and since the line to whf was patched through to the control room by the operator using the 999 emergency system, the monitoring of the link up to the scene, would have automatically been recorded...

Just to put things into perspective...

the official version of events, is that police taped over the original recording a month after it took place, now I can't accept this as being true, in particular because the relatives were kicking up such a stink from as early as 9th August 1985?

[Hartley]

Just to put things into perspective...

the official version of events, is that police taped over the original recording a month after it took place, now I can't accept this as being true, in particular because the relatives were kicking up such a stink from as early as 9th August 1985?

Nevertheless, whether you accept it as being true or not, you have no evidence that they have lied, without a hint of evidence then such allegations are illogical in the extreme.

[jon]

Would you also care to inform people what the policy is for deleting these recordings?

Do you really believe EP would delete these recording's , even if it was a suicide case ?

[Hartley]

Do you really believe EP would delete these recording's , even if it was a suicide case ?

Refer to my previous post.

[jon]

Refer to my previous post.

I am not asking for evidence , i am asking for your opinion !!

[mike tesko]

The idiot has disclosed his Christian name, so what is so top secret that he cannot disclose his surname. And how about a picture of himself, posted by himself, then I will consider talking to him and responding to him, properly. If he does that, I may even change my mind and start responding directly to the idiot, despite the fact that I have previously said, I wouldn't do...

If he was open and honest, I might even consider apologising for calling him an idiot?

If these condition's were met, then who knows, I might even accpet that the only idiot in this matter was/is me...