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Offline grahameb

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2012, 12:14:PM »
For those who are interested, Shaw and myself shared private emails, where more than is published in his manuscript, is mentioned. I would advise everyone to be careful of an idiot who make posts on here without knowing or referring to the truth...
Mike, did Shaw ever reveal his sources of information?

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2012, 12:16:PM »
I would advise everyone to be careful of an idiot who make posts on here without knowing or referring to the truth...

I whole heartedly agree.  ::)

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2012, 12:22:PM »
If the police were talking to Sheila, trying to get her to calm down, why would they not ask her brother to talk to her? This whole conversation was never mentioned to JB, yet allegedly lasted several hours. He was only 50m away, if that, no one mentioned it to him??

The verbal exchanges between the police at the scene and Sheila, did not last several hours - but such exchanges did occur and were recorded on the audio tapes being made of the eavesdrop from the patched intercept organised by the operator...

Why woild police tell Jeremy what could be heard via the telephone intercept, he was not with the firearms officers when they received this information via the link up from the control room, Jeremy was along pages lane with uniformed police officers who did not have the same radio frequencies as the firearms officers, so they would not be privy to any information passed between the control room (including the eavesdrop) and the firearms team  the scene...

What I find strange, is the means by which the information from the scene, was recorded as being transmitted to the control room by the occupants of CA07, since they were not in direct communication with the control room o0n the same frequency whic allowed the eavesdrop to be transmitted to the firearms officers at the scene?

However...

I think this situation could have arisen because Jeremy was with the officers at the patrol car (CA07) and police did not want him to learn or hear the live information coming from within the farmhouse via the eavesdrop. We there fore must have had an op-en link from the control room to the firearms officers at the scene via the operators 999 link up, and another line of communication between the occupants of CA07, and the control room. What information was passed between the control room and the officers at the scene, has still not properly been disclosed despite over 26 years having elapsed since the time of this incident...

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2012, 12:23:PM »
Mike, did Shaw ever reveal his sources of information?

yes, he had been speaking to officers who took part in the raid, who were members of the raid team...
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 12:26:PM »
Members should be very careful about anything said by someone who lives in pages lane, who will say anything to stop the truth coming out...

This person who lives there will say anything, without providing any evidence at all to support what he says, he is basically an idiot, who hides behind a false identity...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2012, 12:30:PM »
Anyway...

Something happened at about 6:30am, which caused police at the scene to request the attendance of two ambulances...

I understand that what ever it was, police thought that someone had been shot at around that time, and the communication between the firearms officers and Sheila came to an abrupt halt...

This was when further officers were dr4afte4d to the scene, arriving there at about 7am (same general time as two ambulances)...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2012, 12:33:PM »
All of this could be sorted out quickly if Essex police and the COPS released the audio tapes, or a true record of what took place...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2012, 12:34:PM »
yes, he had been speaking to officers who took part in the raid, who were members of the raid team...
Thank you.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2012, 12:35:PM »
Members should be very careful about anything said by someone who lives in pages lane, who will say anything to stop the truth coming out...

This person who lives there will say anything, without providing any evidence at all to support what he says, he is basically an idiot, who hides behind a false identity...
thats a relief i  thought you meant me, there were at yesterdays counting 168 members yet to post, false id s take your pick, all truth comes out Mike in time even in this case.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2012, 12:37:PM »
Anyway...

Something happened at about 6:30am, which caused police at the scene to request the attendance of two ambulances...

I understand that what ever it was, police thought that someone had been shot at around that time, and the communication between the firearms officers and Sheila came to an abrupt halt...

This was when further officers were dr4afte4d to the scene, arriving there at about 7am (same general time as two ambulances)...

Why is there no information in the file, as to the reason why these two ambulances were called to the scene at about 6:30am?

What is so sensitive about this information being disclosed?

Are we to assume that the ambulance service simply sent two ambulances to the scene along with crews, of their own accord? They just decided to turn up out of the blue?

How did they know that one ambulance was needed at the house immediately, and that the other opne was to be placed on standby?

What happened inside the farmhouse that the police knew about to cause this to occur or happen?

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2012, 12:41:PM »
thats a relief i  thought you meant me, there were at yesterdays counting 168 members yet to post, false id s take your pick, all truth comes out Mike in time even in this case.

I am not picking in anyone, I am not even picking on the idiot, since I am always interested to hear every bodies and anybodies views on features of this case, but when someone like the idiot comes on here making certain specific allegations he should really be identifying himself as the person who he really is, and if necessary posting a true photograph of his own  image, so that everybody can see who he is?

I would rather not be the person who does this, but I might have to identify this person and post photographs of him if he carries on telling lies, without any proof to back up what comes out of that cess pit of a gob that belongs to him...
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 12:43:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2012, 12:43:PM »
This is a question for the idiot to answer:-

Do you and your family live in Pages lane?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 12:44:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2012, 12:44:PM »
Members should be very careful about anything said by someone who lives in pages lane, who will say anything to stop the truth coming out...

This person who lives there will say anything, without providing any evidence at all to support what he says, he is basically an idiot, who hides behind a false identity...

As it happens I don't live in Pages Lane, about a mile and a half further East (which is what I have said on this forum since last April) and I'm no more hiding behind a false identity than 90% of the members of this forum who also enjoy a certain amount of anonymity.

I also think people on this forum are completely aware of what is going on here, to be completely transparent, I offer very little in the way of claims or theories without stating where such information has come from, people can see that in the majority of my posts which are usually accompanied by documents or links to locations of documents which confirm what has been stated.

I also think that the reality of the situation is that I just happen to be calling Mikes bluff by pointing out evidence which contradicts his uncorroborated allegations and requesting that he post evidence to prove what he is saying is accurate. Why he is finding that to be so offensive is beyond me, perhaps it is because there is no evidence?

So Mike thinks that I am an idiot because I don't believe a word he says and instead invite him to provide corroborating evidence in support? Yes that seems entirely reasonable to me.  ::)
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 12:45:PM by Hartley »

Offline mike tesko

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2012, 12:46:PM »
I think the idiot has identified himself...

I have northing more to say to the idiot, or about him - other than why doesn't he post a true image of himself since he is making such serious allegations?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2012, 12:47:PM »
I dont want to piss on your parade Mike, but instead of threatening to expose "idiot" whoever you think he/she may be.

Why dont you just reveal to us who Z is, and "out" him instead, he's the one making claims etc, that we havent seen proof of yet.