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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #270 on: January 12, 2012, 10:29:PM »
Sheila was on the bed, then the police moved her to the floor, this is the true state of affairs once Sheila ended up in the bedroom...
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #271 on: January 12, 2012, 10:35:PM »
Police ran away from the house, and did not make any attempt to get into the farmhouse, because they feared being shot at by Sheila, who for about a whole hour was screaming obscenities and ranting and raving and putting the fear of god into the minds of the police, in the same way she put the fear of god into those who were close to her, at the time she often lapsed into one of her uncontrollable fits...
« Last Edit: January 12, 2012, 10:57:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #272 on: January 12, 2012, 10:53:PM »
becoming clear the police were not in control that night it seems Sheila was.
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #273 on: January 12, 2012, 11:08:PM »
Police ran away from the house, and did not make any attempt to get into the farmhouse, because they feared being shot at by Sheila, who for about a whole hour was screaming obscenities and ranting and raving and putting the fear of god into the minds of the police, in the same way she put the fear of god into those who were close to her, at the time she often lapsed into one of her uncontrollable fits...
Mike, I find this very disturbing. How could such a thing as this be kept a secret all this time? Moreover if this comes from Shaw, that he got this information from the police that he interviewed. then why wasn't he called as a witness to these events by the defence?

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #274 on: January 12, 2012, 11:16:PM »
Have been reading Jeremys updated blog.It is really interesting!
Under the section of Jeremys alibi,a PC Brown? also spotted the rifle in the window that morning.How could the rifle have been in the window and yet been found on Sheilas body when raid team entered if everybody in the house was dead?Also,I think it was Collins that stated he found Sheila with the rifle by her right side and not upon her body.
From what I can gather,the defence feel they have proved that Sheila was indeed alive in the farmhouse that morning,albeit maybe unconsious after administering the first shot to her neck?Nobody checked to see if she was still alive,presuming that she was dead.They believe that she made her way up one of the sets of stairs,took hold of the rifle and killed herself with second shot.In a statement,one of the officers admits that he heard a noise upstairs and shouted up the stairs to Sheila.
I presume the defence feel that the "cover up" concerns the fact that they bungled the raid by not checking if Sheila was dead or alive in the kitchen,which therefore allowed her to take her own life in their prescence.They could have possibly saved her life?Looking at all the evidence that we have been allowed to see,it is,in my opinion,an entirely plausable scenario.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #275 on: January 12, 2012, 11:22:PM »
If logs exist to prove the rifle was spotted before the entry then this is proof that Sheila was still alive, was it the sighting of the rifle that triggered the storming.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #276 on: January 12, 2012, 11:28:PM »
I dont know Mertol,but I think that it is very damning that it wasnt just Jeapes that spotted the rifle in the window.I had never heard of this PC Brown before.Maybe his statement has been discovered in the new batch of documents that Jeremy has been given?

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #277 on: January 12, 2012, 11:33:PM »
Well i read somrthing on the web that mentions this saying a rifle was spotted, another saying the rifle was made safe and placed there, and both front and back doors had police walking through but only 1 officer at the back door taking names of all who entered.

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #278 on: January 12, 2012, 11:39:PM »
Rifle was spotted in the window before raid team entered.
It is all starting to make sense now as to what actually happened.
I believe that Sheila was initially found in the kitchen but with a different weapon,not the Anshutz.This I believe is why the police referred to the one murdered,one suicide.Was it Davidson that referred to a rifle being found in the kitchen?In his COLP interview?He stated that the rifle had red paint upon its barrel.He was asked by COLP,"dont you mean the silencer"?And he replied no,a rifle.What rifle was this and what happened to it?

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #279 on: January 13, 2012, 12:19:AM »
Rifle was spotted in the window before raid team entered.
It is all starting to make sense now as to what actually happened.
I believe that Sheila was initially found in the kitchen but with a different weapon,not the Anshutz.This I believe is why the police referred to the one murdered,one suicide.Was it Davidson that referred to a rifle being found in the kitchen?In his COLP interview?He stated that the rifle had red paint upon its barrel.He was asked by COLP,"dont you mean the silencer"?And he replied no,a rifle.What rifle was this and what happened to it?

Where is Mike when you need him?
I think we need to see that statement Tyler.
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #280 on: January 13, 2012, 12:25:AM »
I think we need to see that statement Tyler.

Which statement Grahame?Davidsons COLP interview?

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #281 on: January 13, 2012, 12:29:AM »
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but he would not elaborate any further about the role he played at the scene, other than to say it was not necessary for me to know why. Dr Harris was at the scene, or what role he played, only that he was there...

What's his game?  Why did he go so far and only so far, when you appear to make out he could have gone further still?

And who the hell is this Shaw character anyway?  How on earth did he come to be involved in this?
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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #283 on: January 13, 2012, 09:17:AM »
What? You mean zilch? ::)

Thanks Grahame, now we know what the Z stands for  ;)

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Re: Police received screaming and ranting responses from inside farmhouse
« Reply #284 on: January 13, 2012, 09:18:AM »
Which statement Grahame?Davidsons COLP interview?
The COLP interview. Wny was this not spotted and remarked upon then?