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mertol22

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2012, 03:55:PM »
What i can say Mike is if i was one of the funeral staff on that morning with the task of removing the family in that time i would have made some observations as to what i was about to do, but what i do see may not be right
the scenes look too obvious. As to Z is it not a case of doing the right thing, what does he stand to lose ?

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2012, 04:04:PM »
What i can say Mike is if i was one of the funeral staff on that morning with the task of removing the family in that time i would have made some observations as to what i was about to do, but what i do see may not be right
the scenes look too obvious. As to Z is it not a case of doing the right thing, what does he stand to lose ?

He may already have done that what you are saying he should do...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2012, 04:06:PM »
What i can say Mike is if i was one of the funeral staff on that morning with the task of removing the family in that time i would have made some observations as to what i was about to do, but what i do see may not be right
the scenes look too obvious. As to Z is it not a case of doing the right thing, what does he stand to lose ?

What kind of observations?
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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2012, 05:23:PM »
He may already have done that what you are saying he should do...

I think he has.....
".....when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2012, 05:31:PM »
He may already have done that what you are saying he should do...
Mike if Z turns out to be a true person I promise I will buy your nosh for the coming year. Indian. Chinese, or Polish.
I know I am a doubting Thomas, so this is the least I could do.
On the other hand, I demand cod, and chips ;D

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2012, 09:39:PM »
Mike if Z turns out to be a true person I promise I will buy your nosh for the coming year. Indian. Chinese, or Polish.
I know I am a doubting Thomas, so this is the least I could do.
On the other hand, I demand cod, and chips ;D

Well, he exists, and I fully expect that he has done the decent thing by now, and been in touch with the CCRC, along with, as I understand it, another witness to the events, but that is all I can say at the moment, I cannot say anything more, it is out of my hands...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2012, 09:45:PM »
Well, he exists, and I fully expect that he has done the decent thing by now, and been in touch with the CCRC, along with, as I understand it, another witness to the events, but that is all I can say at the moment, I cannot say anything more, it is out of my hands...
I'm just wondering if the CCRC were the wisest choice for him to have gone too? I don't trust anything they do personally.

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2012, 09:45:PM »
Well, he exists, and I fully expect that he has done the decent thing by now, and been in touch with the CCRC, along with, as I understand it, another witness to the events, but that is all I can say at the moment, I cannot say anything more, it is out of my hands...

Why would he present to the CCRC and not the defence?

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2012, 09:51:PM »
Why would he present to the CCRC and not the defence?

As I understand it, through CPS who have been asked searching questions by CCRC about movement of body from bed to floor, and the existence of the second silencer, and when second wound was inflicted to Sheila's neck? At least that is what I am led to believe, we will soon know if he has come forward, it is out of my hands now, and I cannot say anything further at this stage, I have already said too much...
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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2012, 10:12:PM »
As I understand it, through CPS who have been asked searching questions by CCRC about movement of body from bed to floor, and the existence of the second silencer, and when second wound was inflicted to Sheila's neck? At least that is what I am led to believe, we will soon know if he has come forward, it is out of my hands now, and I cannot say anything further at this stage, I have already said too much...

Why would a source within CPS leak that out?  Unless you mean that a contact within the defence has knowledge that such questions have been asked of the CPS?  However, the three examples given by you in relation to subject matter questions, could have stemmed from the information already available to the defence.  To me they do not necessarily indicate that an informant has had an impact.   

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2012, 10:16:PM »
Why would a source within CPS leak that out?  Unless you mean that a contact within the defence has knowledge that such questions have been asked of the CPS?  However, the three examples given by you in relation to subject matter questions, could have stemmed from the information already available to the defence.  To me they do not necessarily indicate that an informant has had an impact.

I am not allowed to comment any further...
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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2012, 11:06:PM »
Perhaps you might know something others do not, perhaps CCRC already know about "Z", I am not allowed to say anything further on that point, only time will tell...
Location of the Deceased its the first thing you take in .

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2012, 11:05:AM »
How can i possibly provide evidence that Z doesnt exist?

We dont even have a name for him except "Z", so realistically how can you expect anyone to disprove he exists.

We have to take your word for it, sorry, but i cant. Though i hope im wrong.

Logical answer andrea

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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2012, 01:33:PM »
Let's imagine Z is real.  Can anyone suggest how Z's provenance can be verified without revealing his ID?  Because if not, then it doesn't matter how many times people press Mike on the subject, if Z wishes to remain anonymous then that's that.


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Re: Some on here hide behind "false identity" when making allegations?
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2012, 01:49:PM »
If Z is real, whats to stop him coming on here? He wont have to reveal his true identity, other than that he is the elusive Mr Z.