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Offline mike tesko

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« Reply #1560 on: December 04, 2011, 09:40:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1561 on: December 04, 2011, 09:47:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...

There are missing negatives which Jeremy and his team know about, and one of the missing negatives that was taken at the time and in sequence with the taking of pictures involving Sheila, must have been the negative of the copy photograph I have been shown, and another must have been when I saw the body of Sheila on the same bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham...

I did not take those photographs, and i have not disposed of the corresponding negatives, I am only a person who has been shown or who has seen copy photographs of Sheila on the bed, and I have reported what I have seen and what I have been shown. I am not in  control of the copy photographs and I am not in control of the corresponding negatives...
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« Reply #1562 on: December 04, 2011, 09:55:PM »
With the help of my informant, the fact that the position and location of crime scene bullet cases has been tampered with, should no longer be an issue. Also identified, is the fact that there were two identical looking Parker hale silencers, not one and that the police and the relatives have merged these two silencers into the same one. We now know that scratch marks were added to the aga surround by the police at the scene on 12th September 1985, and that the silencer containing the paint from the aga surround was not sent to the lab' until 20th September 1985, and not examined until 25th September 1985, by which stage the blood supposedly found inside it had already been identified as belonging to, or originating from Sheila...

The two bullet cases (DRH/1 and DRH/2) and the silencer were vital parts of the prosecutions case against Jeremy Bamber at his trial, and it is now possible to seriously undermine the integrity of all this evidence, so much so that these convictions have to be quashed as soon as possible...

After a careful reconstruction of the blood and paint based evidence, which the prosecution allege was found inside and upon the same silencer (the only silencer as far as they were/are concerned), it is now possible to say with certainty that the crucial blood evidence was not found inside the silencer handed in by the relatives to the police on 11th September 1985. Furthermore, it is also now possible to say with equal amounts of certainty, that paint from the aga was not found on the same silencer inside which was found the crucial flake of blood...

It is possible to reconstruct what took place, when and where - and the only conclusion which can be arrived at, is that the case against Jeremy has been fabricated, and supported by evidence of the silencers, paint and blood which has been manufactured...

If you tamper with this evidence, the convictions cannot any longer be deemed to be safe...
« Last Edit: December 04, 2011, 10:08:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1563 on: December 04, 2011, 10:04:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...

There are missing negatives which Jeremy and his team know about, and one of the missing negatives that was taken at the time and in sequence with the taking of pictures involving Sheila, must have been the negative of the copy photograph I have been shown, and another must have been when I saw the body of Sheila on the same bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham...

I did not take those photographs, and i have not disposed of the corresponding negatives, I am only a person who has been shown or who has seen copy photographs of Sheila on the bed, and I have reported what I have seen and what I have been shown. I am not in  control of the copy photographs and I am not in control of the corresponding negatives...

Nevertheless, if your informant was to walk in to the Guardian's headquarters with such a picture, it would simply be game over.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1564 on: December 04, 2011, 10:09:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...

There are missing negatives which Jeremy and his team know about, and one of the missing negatives that was taken at the time and in sequence with the taking of pictures involving Sheila, must have been the negative of the copy photograph I have been shown, and another must have been when I saw the body of Sheila on the same bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham...

I did not take those photographs, and i have not disposed of the corresponding negatives, I am only a person who has been shown or who has seen copy photographs of Sheila on the bed, and I have reported what I have seen and what I have been shown. I am not in  control of the copy photographs and I am not in control of the corresponding negatives...

Nevertheless, if your informant was to walk in to the Guardian's headquarters with such a picture, it would simply be game over.

That has been his choice all along, I cannot make a choice like that for someone in his position...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1565 on: December 04, 2011, 10:17:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...

There are missing negatives which Jeremy and his team know about, and one of the missing negatives that was taken at the time and in sequence with the taking of pictures involving Sheila, must have been the negative of the copy photograph I have been shown, and another must have been when I saw the body of Sheila on the same bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham...

I did not take those photographs, and i have not disposed of the corresponding negatives, I am only a person who has been shown or who has seen copy photographs of Sheila on the bed, and I have reported what I have seen and what I have been shown. I am not in  control of the copy photographs and I am not in control of the corresponding negatives...

Nevertheless, if your informant was to walk in to the Guardian's headquarters with such a picture, it would simply be game over.

That has been his choice all along, I cannot make a choice like that for someone in his position...
All he needs to do is post it to them and no one will ever know who he is? This one photo would force the hand of the CCRC and that of the appeal court.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1566 on: December 04, 2011, 10:28:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...

There are missing negatives which Jeremy and his team know about, and one of the missing negatives that was taken at the time and in sequence with the taking of pictures involving Sheila, must have been the negative of the copy photograph I have been shown, and another must have been when I saw the body of Sheila on the same bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham...

I did not take those photographs, and i have not disposed of the corresponding negatives, I am only a person who has been shown or who has seen copy photographs of Sheila on the bed, and I have reported what I have seen and what I have been shown. I am not in  control of the copy photographs and I am not in control of the corresponding negatives...

Nevertheless, if your informant was to walk in to the Guardian's headquarters with such a picture, it would simply be game over.

That has been his choice all along, I cannot make a choice like that for someone in his position...
All he needs to do is post it to them and no one will ever know who he is? This one photo would force the hand of the CCRC and that of the appeal court.

That must be his choice, I cannot force anyone to do anything, I don't have control of the photograph, I have only been shown it, in a similar way that I have seen the photograph of Sheila on the bed when I visited Ewen Smiths office, I do not have control over that photograph, either, and I cannot make those in control of that photograph, hand it over to the CCRC, or to post it to them, either
« Last Edit: December 04, 2011, 10:29:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1567 on: December 04, 2011, 10:42:PM »
The contents of Sheila Caffells diaries, are understood to contain information that would be hurtful to living relatives:-

Was one of them, having an affair with her?
« Last Edit: December 04, 2011, 10:44:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1568 on: December 04, 2011, 10:46:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...

There are missing negatives which Jeremy and his team know about, and one of the missing negatives that was taken at the time and in sequence with the taking of pictures involving Sheila, must have been the negative of the copy photograph I have been shown, and another must have been when I saw the body of Sheila on the same bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham...

I did not take those photographs, and i have not disposed of the corresponding negatives, I am only a person who has been shown or who has seen copy photographs of Sheila on the bed, and I have reported what I have seen and what I have been shown. I am not in  control of the copy photographs and I am not in control of the corresponding negatives...

Nevertheless, if your informant was to walk in to the Guardian's headquarters with such a picture, it would simply be game over.

That has been his choice all along, I cannot make a choice like that for someone in his position...
All he needs to do is post it to them and no one will ever know who he is? This one photo would force the hand of the CCRC and that of the appeal court.

That must be his choice, I cannot force anyone to do anything, I don't have control of the photograph, I have only been shown it, in a similar way that I have seen the photograph of Sheila on the bed when I visited Ewen Smiths office, I do not have control over that photograph, either, and I cannot make those in control of that photograph, hand it over to the CCRC, or to post it to them, either

Your informant must have a conscience to have got in touch with you Mike. I wonder when others will follow suit?
".....when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1569 on: December 04, 2011, 10:52:PM »
Wouldn't it be far easier just to hand in the copy of the photo to Simon McKay's team?

I am not in control of that situation...

There are missing negatives which Jeremy and his team know about, and one of the missing negatives that was taken at the time and in sequence with the taking of pictures involving Sheila, must have been the negative of the copy photograph I have been shown, and another must have been when I saw the body of Sheila on the same bed, when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham...

I did not take those photographs, and i have not disposed of the corresponding negatives, I am only a person who has been shown or who has seen copy photographs of Sheila on the bed, and I have reported what I have seen and what I have been shown. I am not in  control of the copy photographs and I am not in control of the corresponding negatives...

Nevertheless, if your informant was to walk in to the Guardian's headquarters with such a picture, it would simply be game over.

That has been his choice all along, I cannot make a choice like that for someone in his position...
All he needs to do is post it to them and no one will ever know who he is? This one photo would force the hand of the CCRC and that of the appeal court.

That must be his choice, I cannot force anyone to do anything, I don't have control of the photograph, I have only been shown it, in a similar way that I have seen the photograph of Sheila on the bed when I visited Ewen Smiths office, I do not have control over that photograph, either, and I cannot make those in control of that photograph, hand it over to the CCRC, or to post it to them, either

Your informant must have a conscience to have got in touch with you Mike. I wonder when others will follow suit?

The informant who contacted Ewen Smith about the second silencer, who provided him with the names of two police officers who could verify that a second silencer had been kept by DCI Jones on his desk at Witham police station, etc, also had a conscience, but that did not force him to come forward himself to the CCRC, or to the media...

At the end of the day, the choice to come forward themselves is something for them to do, I can't force anyone to do something that they don't want to do, but if they contact me and tell me things and show me things, then all I can do is report what I have been told, or been shown...

Other people have come forward with information, not just to me but also to Jeremy and his campaign team, or so I am led to believe...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #1570 on: December 04, 2011, 10:54:PM »
Mike there are a few points that need to be established, the position of Sheila on the bedroom floor with a rifle on her body in the sense of the word is not a crime scene if this alternative picture exists of Sheila on the bed, most rolls of film will clearly show the run sequence of negatives, it should be possible to find the breaks or missing ones under data in protection of pii.

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« Reply #1571 on: December 04, 2011, 10:55:PM »
After 10 years, Essex police handed over gun and silencer to museum for display purposes:-
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« Reply #1572 on: December 04, 2011, 10:55:PM »
Mike ut says embarrasing to persons living, it doesnt mention relatives.

It could be anyone ie a friend or even colin, who knows?

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« Reply #1573 on: December 04, 2011, 11:00:PM »
After 10 years, Essex police handed over gun and silencer to museum for display purposes:-

Becky Walsh Curator 01245 457 150

Martyn Lockwood was curator last time I had some dealings with them, he's an excellent man and seems to be still with the museum in some capacity.

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« Reply #1574 on: December 04, 2011, 11:01:PM »
Mike there are a few points that need to be established, the position of Sheila on the bedroom floor with a rifle on her body in the sense of the word is not a crime scene if this alternative picture exists of Sheila on the bed, most rolls of film will clearly show the run sequence of negatives, it should be possible to find the breaks or missing ones under data in protection of pii.

Yes, from what I can gather, there are about seven or eight missing negatives that were taken in sequence, before the first disclosed photographs were taken, and one or more of these must relate to when Sheila's body was laid on the bed, at the time the picture was taken which I saw when I visited Ewen smiths office, and on the other occasion, when my informant showed me Sheila on the bed with only one wound to her throat. I think Jeremy's legal team are dealing with this as we speak, with the assistance of Mr Sutherst (expert), and others...
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