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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1365 on: November 26, 2011, 06:23:AM »
Two pictures taken at scene by police on morning of shootings:-

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1366 on: November 26, 2011, 06:37:AM »
Jeremy under police surveillance, on 15th September 1985:-

Here is a copy of the relevant handwritten log for that operation...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1367 on: November 26, 2011, 07:12:AM »
Schedule, relating to both silencers, (1 and 2), which were eventually merged into the same one, to accommodate the blood and paint evidence, to help convict "JB" for these murders:-

Ask yourself this question - how could the silencer (1) which was sent to the lab' on 13th and 30th August 1985, be accepted at the lab', on two occasions before David Boutflour even reported that he had found a silencer (2) in the gun cupboard to the police, in a telephone call he made to them, on 11th September 1985, which was handed over to the police by Ann Eaton, that same day, and which did not get sent to the lab' until 20th September 1985, and which was not actually examined for the very first time until 25th September 1985, if it was not properly packaged and labelled?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1368 on: November 26, 2011, 09:13:AM »
Schedule, relating to both silencers, (1 and 2), which were eventually merged into the same one, to accommodate the blood and paint evidence, to help convict "JB" for these murders:-

Ask yourself this question - how could the silencer (1) which was sent to the lab' on 13th and 30th August 1985, be accepted at the lab', on two occasions before David Boutflour even reported that he had found a silencer (2) in the gun cupboard to the police, in a telephone call he made to them, on 11th September 1985, which was handed over to the police by Ann Eaton, that same day, and which did not get sent to the lab' until 20th September 1985, and which was not actually examined for the very first time until 25th September 1985, if it was not properly packaged and labelled?

How could the ballistic expert (Fletcher) find the crucial flake of blood which turns out to have originated from Sheila, inside a silencer (2) which had not yet been submitted to the lab', and which would not be submitted to the lab', until after the blood he found on 11th September 1985, had been identified by blood expert, John Hayward, as Sheila Caffells, by 19th September 1985?

It would have been physically impossible to find the blood inside a silencer (2) which he did not yet have possession of, or access to at the alleged material time (11th September 1985)...

Fletcher could only have found or discovered blood inside the other silencer (1), which had been at the lab' from 30th August 1985 (which was the silencer found at the scene by DS Jones)...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1369 on: November 26, 2011, 09:18:AM »
As far as exposing the silencer (2)  to super glue treatment is/was concerned, no such treatment was ever carried out with regards to this particular silencer, after its find on 11th September 1985, or prior to its submission to the lab' on 20th September 1985...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1370 on: November 26, 2011, 09:21:AM »
As far as exposing the silencer (2)  to super glue treatment is/was concerned, no such treatment was ever carried out with regards to this particular silencer, after its find on 11th September 1985, or prior to its submission to the lab' on 20th September 1985...

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other silencer (1) was exposed to super glue treatment on 23rd August 1985, which occurred long before the second silencer (2) was found at the scene (11th September 1985), therefore, this silencer (2) is not coated by super glue residue, whereas, the other silencer (1) is...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1371 on: November 26, 2011, 09:49:AM »
This is the view police would have had when looking through the kitchen window, and seeing the body of a dead female (behind the pantry door):-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1372 on: November 26, 2011, 09:53:AM »
Working out the position of the kitchen table, by reference to these two images:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1373 on: November 26, 2011, 05:15:PM »
This is the view police would have had when looking through the kitchen window, and seeing the body of a dead female (behind the pantry door):-

If you look through the kitchen window, in the direction of the arrow (inserted) you would get a view into the pantry through the pantry door opposite - this is where I believe the body of the female was seen by the police at the window, since if you go by the position of Ralph's body as per PC Tingeys diagram, Ralph's body was not behind the internal door...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1374 on: November 26, 2011, 05:21:PM »
By reference to PC Tingeys diagram, and a directional arrow from the position of the kitchen window, one cane see that the position of Ralph Bambers body, could not be described as being behind the internal kitchen door...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1375 on: November 26, 2011, 05:25:PM »
On the other hand...

the position of the directional arrow, shows the view which would have been offered to the police at the kitchen window, who could have seen the body of a female behind the pantry door...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1376 on: November 26, 2011, 06:07:PM »
To be pondered is how the three bullet cases ended up atop the kitchen table, if Ralph Bamber was shot in the position his body was photographed in, as per the position depicted, in PC Tingeys diagram?

Spent cartridge cases are ejected forward and to the right, after each shot is discharged from the .22 Anshulz rifle...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1377 on: November 26, 2011, 06:41:PM »
Wooden chair was in a different position, than shown in PC Tingeys diagram, as shown in the crime scene photograph:-

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1378 on: November 26, 2011, 06:53:PM »
In order for the three spent bullet cases (DRH/19, DRH/20 and DRH/41) to end up atop the kitchen table, the position of Ralph Bambers head would have had to be upright, sideways on, and falling forwards, at the time he was shot four times in the head...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1379 on: November 26, 2011, 07:10:PM »
Presence of bullet case DRH/41 atop the kitchen table is puzzling, because it was not recovered from the scene until 8th August 1985, whereas the other two bullet cases (DRH/19 and DRH/20) were found on 7th August 1985?

How could SOC have missed bullet case DRH/41 atop the kitchen table, on 7th August 1985?
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