you should all know this?

[mike tesko]

The police fiction about a struggle by the aga.
The total lack of a single drop of blood would suggest in the supposed struggle by the aga not cuts were made....and that this had to have happened well before he was supposedly shot 4 times in the bedroom and then miraculously made his way downstairs back to the kitchen with none of the 5 wounds from the 4 bullets leaving a drop of blood along the way....

I dont buy it and only the most corrupt and perverted could claim it to be credible.

The only blood found in the kitchen, was (a) on the kitchen floor around the base of the coal bucket, also (b) on the edge of the worktop near the box of bullets, and the telephone, and (c) blood on the kitchen floor directly beneath where the bloodied fingerprints were, aforementioned...

Seems to me, like Ralph got non fatally wounded whilst he was in the kitchen, near to the handset of the telephone, that he shed blood as a result of being shot in the kitchen, and that after he was shot there, he could have struggled to his feet, and received further shots which ultimately killed him in the kitchen, there was none of his blood found anywhere upstairs to suggest that he could have been shot upstairs at all...

'O' type blood found on the wall paper at the top of the stairs or on the stairs could have been blood which originated from the shooting of the two children, who both had'O' type blood...

Since there is no trial of blood from Ralph leading from upstairs to downstairs, it is much more likely that Ralph, did not get shot upstairs, at all - but rather that he could have been frogmarched downstairs at the point of a gun, where he was made to phone Jeremy to try and lure him to the farm, just like DCI 'Taff' Jones said it had happened...

[mike tesko]

The police fiction about a struggle by the aga.
The total lack of a single drop of blood would suggest in the supposed struggle by the aga not cuts were made....and that this had to have happened well before he was supposedly shot 4 times in the bedroom and then miraculously made his way downstairs back to the kitchen with none of the 5 wounds from the 4 bullets leaving a drop of blood along the way....

I dont buy it and only the most corrupt and perverted could claim it to be credible.

The only blood found in the kitchen, was (a) on the kitchen floor around the base of the coal bucket, also (b) on the edge of the worktop near the box of bullets, and the telephone, and (c) blood on the kitchen floor directly beneath where the bloodied fingerprints were, aforementioned...

Seems to me, like Ralph got non fatally wounded whilst he was in the kitchen, near to the handset of the telephone, that he shed blood as a result of being shot in the kitchen, and that after he was shot there, he could have struggled to his feet, and received further shots which ultimately killed him in the kitchen, there was none of his blood found anywhere upstairs to suggest that he could have been shot upstairs at all...

'O' type blood found on the wall paper at the top of the stairs or on the stairs could have been blood which originated from the shooting of the two children, who both had'O' type blood...

Since there is no trial of blood from Ralph leading from upstairs to downstairs, it is much more likely that Ralph, did not get shot upstairs, at all - but rather that he could have been frogmarched downstairs at the point of a gun, where he was made to phone Jeremy to try and lure him to the farm, just like DCI 'Taff' Jones said it had happened...

No blood trail which originated from Ralph from upstairs to downstairs, is consistent with Ralph having not been shot before he made the call to Jeremy, since there was no blood found on the handset of the telephone which was found off its cradle, and resting on the kitchen worktop very close to where the bloodied fingermarks were photographed on the edge of the kitchen worktop, and spare ammunition...

[mike tesko]

The police fiction about a struggle by the aga.
The total lack of a single drop of blood would suggest in the supposed struggle by the aga not cuts were made....and that this had to have happened well before he was supposedly shot 4 times in the bedroom and then miraculously made his way downstairs back to the kitchen with none of the 5 wounds from the 4 bullets leaving a drop of blood along the way....

I dont buy it and only the most corrupt and perverted could claim it to be credible.

The only blood found in the kitchen, was (a) on the kitchen floor around the base of the coal bucket, also (b) on the edge of the worktop near the box of bullets, and the telephone, and (c) blood on the kitchen floor directly beneath where the bloodied fingerprints were, aforementioned...

Seems to me, like Ralph got non fatally wounded whilst he was in the kitchen, near to the handset of the telephone, that he shed blood as a result of being shot in the kitchen, and that after he was shot there, he could have struggled to his feet, and received further shots which ultimately killed him in the kitchen, there was none of his blood found anywhere upstairs to suggest that he could have been shot upstairs at all...

'O' type blood found on the wall paper at the top of the stairs or on the stairs could have been blood which originated from the shooting of the two children, who both had'O' type blood...

Since there is no trial of blood from Ralph leading from upstairs to downstairs, it is much more likely that Ralph, did not get shot upstairs, at all - but rather that he could have been frogmarched downstairs at the point of a gun, where he was made to phone Jeremy to try and lure him to the farm, just like DCI 'Taff' Jones said it had happened...

No blood trail which originated from Ralph from upstairs to downstairs, is consistent with Ralph having not been shot before he made the call to Jeremy, since there was no blood found on the handset of the telephone which was found off its cradle, and resting on the kitchen worktop very close to where the bloodied fingermarks were photographed on the edge of the kitchen worktop, and spare ammunition...

we have three general areas of blood inside whf:-

(1) Main bedroom
(2) Children's bedroom
(3) Kitchen

There are no trails of blood, leading from one room to another, to suggest that anybody who was wounded at one place, walked or ran or moved to another room...

[Blodwynflower]

Good afternoon all

Mike, has your informant(s) told you the whole story now of what happened, or is there more to come?

Thankyou.

[Newbury1]

The police fiction about a struggle by the aga.
The total lack of a single drop of blood would suggest in the supposed struggle by the aga not cuts were made....and that this had to have happened well before he was supposedly shot 4 times in the bedroom and then miraculously made his way downstairs back to the kitchen with none of the 5 wounds from the 4 bullets leaving a drop of blood along the way....

I don't buy it and only the most corrupt and perverted could claim it to be credible.

The only blood found in the kitchen, was (a) on the kitchen floor around the base of the coal bucket, also (b) on the edge of the worktop near the box of bullets, and the telephone, and (c) blood on the kitchen floor directly beneath where the bloodied fingerprints were, aforementioned...

Seems to me, like Ralph got non fatally wounded whilst he was in the kitchen, near to the handset of the telephone, that he shed blood as a result of being shot in the kitchen, and that after he was shot there, he could have struggled to his feet, and received further shots which ultimately killed him in the kitchen, there was none of his blood found anywhere upstairs to suggest that he could have been shot upstairs at all...

'O' type blood found on the wall paper at the top of the stairs or on the stairs could have been blood which originated from the shooting of the two children, who both had'O' type blood...

Since there is no trial of blood from Ralph leading from upstairs to downstairs, it is much more likely that Ralph, did not get shot upstairs, at all - but rather that he could have been frogmarched downstairs at the point of a gun, where he was made to phone Jeremy to try and lure him to the farm, just like DCI 'Taff' Jones said it had happened...

No blood trail which originated from Ralph from upstairs to downstairs, is consistent with Ralph having not been shot before he made the call to Jeremy, since there was no blood found on the handset of the telephone which was found off its cradle, and resting on the kitchen worktop very close to where the bloodied fingermarks were photographed on the edge of the kitchen worktop, and spare ammunition...

we have three general areas of blood inside whf:-

(1) Main bedroom
(2) Children's bedroom
(3) Kitchen

There are no trails of blood, leading from one room to another, to suggest that anybody who was wounded at one place, walked or ran or moved to another room...

Mike, I thought there was a blood smear (possibly from Nevill) on the hall / main stairs wall?

[smiffy]

In the court transcript this is described more...(Hammersleys)...by all accounts it was a very small spot of blood , 5ft high up the wall and from it no direction could be acertained etc...so it was a small spot of blood...easily missed....who knows ..it could have been an old spot of blood that could have been on the wall for weeks or months.
Hammersley did not specify exact size even when asked if half or quarter of an inch.

so to most people a smear would mean something more than just a tiny spot...  ie misleading lingo use...people meant to form the wrong impression by its mention as being a smear...and on this forum many have fell for it prior to the truth being let out...myself included.

[mike tesko]

Good afternoon all

Mike, has your informant(s) told you the whole story now of what happened, or is there more to come?

Thankyou.

I have received other information recently, which I will divulge shortly...

[smiffy]

As Mike describes the blood reported in the kitchen ....between the two locations...bit by the phone..ie the print on side of worktop and blood spots beneath on floor etc  and the spot where Ralph is photographed .....WELL THE PROBLEM for me is there is a GAP....there should be a trail...where has it gone? Did someone clean it up...
(assuming the print to be Ralph's...no reason not to).

Ralph had lost enough blood by where the hand print was to be loosing enough to form a trail..so we should see it.
What is also alarming about the hand print (it does extend onto the drawer) is that it is only on the edge of the worktop...ie his fingers do not curl round onto the upper surface...suggesting either the bits on the edge were near enough his finger tips ...OR someone wiped the surface clean prior to photography....
So was it an attempt to get up from off the floor or just pressing against it to steady himself maybe...
Thinking about it....Ralph, could have been lying on his back when he made that handprint ..or if in crawling type position his arm would be bent at the elbow.

[Blodwynflower]

Good afternoon all

Mike, has your informant(s) told you the whole story now of what happened, or is there more to come?

Thankyou.

I have received other information recently, which I will divulge shortly...

Many thanks Mike, I await with interest.....

[smiffy]

It would be helpful if we can establish whether this hand print was the left hand or the right hand.
The pathologist reported an injury by the 5th digit of his right palm. One would expect this to bleed more and be a highlight on the print if it was the right hand and not long after the cut on the right hand was formed.

[smiffy]

Considering the person who made the handprint had to be lying down on their back or crawling type position or crouched when they made it...there seems to be no good reason for a killer or a policeman to be doing that at the scene...which more or less just leaves Ralph with suitably sized hands making the bloodied handprint.

[mike tesko]

Brigadier?

'Z' has told me of involvement of the army in the investigation of this case, and the controlling influence of some Brigadier, or other, who has been pulling the strings?

You may all be wondering what the British Army were doing getting involved in the investigation of this case, and the cover up which has been ongoing for over 26 years? The very same could be said for why Special branch also took an interest in this case...

[Roch]

Well if it's Brig. Lethbridge Stewart, then that might explain how the silencer seems to have travelled in time and space.... 

[Newbury1]

Well if it's Brig. Lethbridge Stewart, then that might explain how the silencer seems to have travelled in time and space....

Perhaps it wasn't Dr Craig afterall, but another more famous Dr - who would that be you might ask?!!

 

[mike tesko]

Questions now need to be asked, regarding at what stage the paint found on the end of the silencer, got there?

Before, during or after the purported struggle involving Ralph Bamber and his killer?

Nobody has yet addressed this particular issue, which is a very important one...

Scientists who examined the silencer on 25th September 1985, and afterwards, do not say at what stage the paint which was found to be present there on the end of the silencer got there, or from which area of the aga surround it originated from?