you should all know this?

[mike tesko]

Mike how long did you view the pictures? could you see anything different in each, was Sheila still alive at this point ?

The photograph which 'Z' brought to show me of Sheila on the bed, was taken from a different angle than the one I saw previously when I visited Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham. In  that photograph (Birmingham) photographer was stood at the foot of the bed and the picture showed Sheila laid on the bed at a right angle to the base of the bed, whereas, in 'Z' s photograph this had been taken from the left hand side of the bed, and just showed the upper part of her body, neck and head...

In the photograph 'Z' showed me, there was a single trail of blood which ran vertically down her neck, as if she had been stood or sat upright when she had been shot and blood had run out of the entry wound in the same direction shown in the photograph published on the front page of the Express newspaper a couple of years ago, which appears dried or wiped away in that picture. She looked dead in the picture, but obviously she could not have been because she got shot for a second time after this picture was taken and blood ran out of the entry wound in a horizontal fashion and direction...

if you look closely at the image below that was published in the Express newspaper, you can see the vertical trail of dried blood running away from the lower entry wound, this is consistent with blood that was visible in the photograph which 'Z' brought to show me the other day in the wood

[mertol22]

Mike if the picture showed 1 shot to Sheila there is a critical question where did the 2nd come from ?

[mike tesko]

Mike if the picture showed 1 shot to Sheila there is a critical question where did the 2nd come from ?

Yes, I know...

it obviously came after the picture that 'Z' showed me had been taken, at a time when police were in control (or not) at the scene...

One other point which I feel is perhaps worth making is that the run of blood in the above photograph which appears to have run from the lower wound, is in fact blood which ran from the upper wound at a time when Sheila's head was lolled forward and blood from the upper wound became trapped against the necklace and when Sheila's head was repositioned by the police it left blood from the upper wound trailing away in the direction from the lower entry wound, as shown...

Vertical trail of blood visible in the photograph, 'Z' showed me, appears to have been wiped away in the above picture, after or before her body was moved from the bed to the floor...

[grahameb]

The only way it will get to the court of appeal mike is if jb's legal team are aware and have definate proof that what youre saying is true, then they would submit it to the CCRC, so..are jb's legal team aware or not?

  mike could you answer please ?

Considering that some members of the forum are in regular contact with Jeremy, and his legal team, I should think that Jeremy knows all about it by now, and he will have been gathering all the evidence which he has got in his possession to see for himself if there is anything in it or not? Once he gathers this information and evidence together, I have no doubt that it will form part of some application to the CCRC with a view to referring his case back to the court of appeal...

Jeremy called me this afternoon and updated me about developments in the case.  I have always been careful about posting information passed to me by Jeremy but he has confirmed that he has no objection to me posting an update here today.

Jeremy is pleased with the work being undertaken by Simon McKay. A huge amount of work has been undertaken by Jeremy and his team in analysing a large volume of documents obtained recently, which were previously subject to PII restrictions. These documents, together with the negatives also recently disclosed, have yielded valuable material relating to several elements of the case.

In outline, there is further evidence which assists the defence in relation to the scratches to the Aga surround.  There is also evidence relating to the finding of the hacksaw blade and examination of the window through which Jeremy was alleged to have gained entry to WHF.  The most important material relates to the silencer evidence.  Jeremy is confident that he can now prove that two silencers were sent, at different times, to the FSS at Huntingdon.  Leaving aside whether you accept what Mike says about "Z", what Mike has said about the silencer evidence appears to be correct, and there is further evidence to support that now. In addition there is some interesting information which has come to light about the tests conducted by the FSS in relation to the blood found inside one of the silencers.  It would appear that at the trial the jury were not given an entirely accurate account of the tests carried out. 

There is further information in relation to the COLP enquiry which assists the defence.  Examination of the negatives at high resolution has also produced useful material.

 

Well worded Neil.

[mike tesko]

In the photograph which 'Z' showed me, there was no bloodied fingermarks on the upper part of Sheila's neck/throat so these must have been made there later, not by any would be killer, or one of the other victims, but rather by a police officer at the scene...

[mertol22]

If i did not know any better the events upon storming the rear entry door are sounding false and i will go further i think Sheila was still alive.

[mike tesko]

If i did not know any better the events upon storming the rear entry door are sounding false and i will go further i think Sheila was still alive.

You will not be surprised then to hear what 'Z' had to say about what the police found once they got into the Kitchen at whf?

[Roch]

If i did not know any better the events upon storming the rear entry door are sounding false and i will go further i think Sheila was still alive.

You will not be surprised then to hear what 'Z' had to say about what the police found once they got into the Kitchen at whf?

Please continue.

[mike tesko]

'Z' s account of what police found once they got into the kitchen

Two bodies, neither checked properly to see if still alive, it turns out Sheila was not shot at all, but that there was blood on the floor beside where her body was laying. Police now know that she was faking being dead, but in their haste to search the farmhouse and look for all the other potential victims, they left Sheila's body in the kitchen unsupervised...

This mistake...

led to further complications later when Sheila got upstairs and shot herself by use of a rifle with a silencer fitted to its barrel, this other rifle was the .22 air rifle, not the .22semi-automatic anshulz rifle, police believe that Sheila gathered up this air rifle at the bottom of the stairs in the kitchen, and that she took it upstairs with her to the bedroom. Sheila was shot with use of the .22 air rifle in the side of the neck at a time when a silencer was fitted to the end of its barrel, this is what 'Z' told me...

[Roch]

'Z' s account of what police found once they got into the kitchen

Two bodies, neither checked properly to see if still alive, it turns out Sheila was not shot at all, but that there was blood on the floor beside where her body was laying. Police now know that she was faking being dead, but in their haste to search the farmhouse and look for all the other potential victims, they left Sheila's body in the kitchen unsupervised...

I suggested this months ago to Kaldin (playing dead or unconscious).  However, does this not contradict your claim that Z stated the logs were faked?

[mike tesko]

'Z' s account of what police found once they got into the kitchen

Two bodies, neither checked properly to see if still alive, it turns out Sheila was not shot at all, but that there was blood on the floor beside where her body was laying. Police now know that she was faking being dead, but in their haste to search the farmhouse and look for all the other potential victims, they left Sheila's body in the kitchen unsupervised...

I suggested this months ago to Kaldin (playing dead or unconscious).  However, does this not contradict your claim that Z stated the logs were faked?

Yes and no...

I will explain what 'Z' had to say about this, without giving an explanation of my own for the time being, and later I will give my explanation for it appearing to be so...

Please be patient and bear with me...

[mike tesko]

'Z' s account of what police found once they got into the kitchen

There was a delay between Sheila's body being found downstairs, and her shooting herself once in the side of the neck by use of the .22 air rifle, upstairs in the bedroom. During this delay, the other three bodies had been found and located upstairs and the house was declared to be completely searched and secure, and then senior officers were called forward from their position in a nearby outbuilding which was known as the forward control point, into the farmhouse...

it was at this point that things started to go drastically wrong for the police...

[Roch]

There was a delay between Sheila's body being found downstairs, and her shooting herself once in the side of the neck by use of the .22 air rifle, upstairs in the bedroom

The delay presumably caused by her somehow getting upstairs.  I have a feeling you are going to say there was a pursuit / stand-off situation?

[mike tesko]

There was a delay between Sheila's body being found downstairs, and her shooting herself once in the side of the neck by use of the .22 air rifle, upstairs in the bedroom

The delay presumably caused by her somehow getting upstairs.  I have a feeling you are going to say there was a pursuit / stand-off situation?

This is not my account, it is the account given to me recently by 'Z'...

[guest7363]

 an informant who exposes wrongdoing within an organization in the hope of stopping it; "the law gives little protection to whistleblowers who feel the public has a right to know what is going on. I can understand forum members getting their backs up, but if z exsists mike and z have to tread carefully and i'm sure z will have told what mike can and cannot say or he will not be told anything else. If i was z the first person i would have gone to would have been mike to seek his advice for the way forward, and i'm sure things happen backstage that were not told about.