you should all know this?

[mike tesko]

Mike has a blue and white shirt/jersey been moved also? i see one on the table and folded on a chair in the 2 pictures.

Look at the curtains between the two photographs, looks like they have been taken down or altered/changed?

Really odd...

Why would police remove curtains from main bedroom window?

Could this have something to do with the figure having been seen at the bedroom window by two police officers and Jeremy at around 4am?

[Roch]

The blood patch is missing in Smiffy's screenshot.  It should be visible.

[mike tesko]

The blood patch is missing in Smiffy's screenshot.  It should be visible.

Yep...

[mike tesko]

Seems tome, that the only people moving things around at the scene was the police, not Jeremy Bamber, or any would be as yet unidentified killer/hitman?

[Roch]

The blood patch is missing in Smiffy's screenshot.  It should be visible.

Yep...

How come that blood patch has a (rounded) diamond shape?  If it's not a blood patch, then what is it?

[Hartley]

The blood patch is missing in Smiffy's screenshot.  It should be visible.

I don't think it is in shot, looking at where it is in relation to the rug, in the screen shot only a corner of the rug is visible. Also unless my eyes are playing up (which is possible) the screen shot seems to have a fisheye type effect to it which may be further distorting the perspective.

I also don't think it's a blood stain, if I remember correctly I had a spat with someone who was suggesting it was where a carpet sample was taken, although it's position doesn't quite match the plan (the same plan indicating bullet cases).

I don't know what it is though, a red piece of paper, police marker, packet of fags? I'm not sure, bit of a mystery to me.

[Roch]

The blood patch is missing in Smiffy's screenshot.  It should be visible.

I don't think it is in shot, looking at where it is in relation to the rug, in the screen shot only a corner of the rug is visible. Also unless my eyes are playing up (which is possible) the screen shot seems to have a fisheye type effect to it which may be further distorting the perspective.

I also don't think it's a blood stain, if I remember correctly I had a spat with someone who was suggesting it was where a carpet sample was taken, although it's position doesn't quite match the plan (the same plan indicating bullet cases).

I don't know what it is though, a red piece of paper, police marker, packet of fags? I'm not sure, bit of a mystery to me.

For me, the stain or item in question is considerably higher up than the beginning of the persian type rug (if you were looking towards the bed, from the window)  So I cannot understand how it is not in the screen shot.  Part of the plain rug looks 'cut away' in the screen shot. 

[Hartley]

The blood patch is missing in Smiffy's screenshot.  It should be visible.

I don't think it is in shot, looking at where it is in relation to the rug, in the screen shot only a corner of the rug is visible. Also unless my eyes are playing up (which is possible) the screen shot seems to have a fisheye type effect to it which may be further distorting the perspective.

I also don't think it's a blood stain, if I remember correctly I had a spat with someone who was suggesting it was where a carpet sample was taken, although it's position doesn't quite match the plan (the same plan indicating bullet cases).

I don't know what it is though, a red piece of paper, police marker, packet of fags? I'm not sure, bit of a mystery to me.

For me, the stain or item in question is considerably higher up than the beginning of the persian type rug (if you were looking towards the bed, from the window)  So I cannot understand how it is not in the screen shot.  Part of the plain rug looks 'cut away' in the screen shot.

Not sure, it's difficult to tell, the persian rug also looks further away from the bed in the screen shot, but again I'm not sure if that's just down to perspective.

[mertol22]

is there another stain, just right of the middle rail on the bed rail a small area nr the rug.

[Hartley]

is there another stain, just right of the middle rail on the bed rail a small area nr the rug.

There's something there, a little black dot.

[mertol22]

the photo without the marks has brighter areas where they are in the other just used my stamp magnifying glass.

[Hartley]

the photo without the marks has brighter areas where they are in the other just used my stamp magnifying glass.

I think that's just because of the image quality though, it actually looks as if it's been photoshopped to try and sharpen it up a bit, if you zoom in and look at the corner of the rug it looks like the pixels are smudged, like a paint brush or smudge tool.

It's probably just a low res image though.

[mertol22]

the pictures still look good quality this is pre digital camera era. Mike said something the other day i think he described a flash frame will  check with a mate of mine who is a photographer.

[mike tesko]

According to PS Woodcocks statement, no sooner does he remove the rifle and make it safe by 11:10 hrs, than DC hammersley and another police officer are wrapping up Sheila's body in a plastic sheet and removing her body, and then the two bullet cases are found, to the left of the body, that is between the body and the bed. This seriously contradicts what DC Hammersley says about one of the two bullet cases being on the opposite side of the body, between a slipper and her right shoulder. The diagram which was produced by PC Tingey, which purports to show the position and location of all the bullet cases, including DRH/1, is inaccurate, and does not represent the true position and location of that particular bullet case. There is no slipper anywhere at all near to Sheila`s shoulder, nor any such bullet case (DRH/1) near to Sheila`s right shoulder, DC Hammersleys testimony is false, and he is at least guilty of deceiving the court and perverting the course of justice regarding this matter...

Remember what PS Woodcock said in his statement about the two bullet cases only becoming visible, once Sheila's body had been wrapped in a sheet and removed, and that both bullet cases were to the left of her body?

Police are responsible for stage managing the scene in the bedroom and for fabricating evidence involving the movement of the body, movement of the gun, addIng scratch marks onto the aga surround, and merging two silencers into the same one...

[mike tesko]

It has previously been put to me, that the photograph which I saw at Ewen Smiths office of Sheila's body on the bed , was taken after police moved it there from the floor?

I have a number of observations to make regarding such a suggestion...

Firstly...

No police officer, or person who attended the scene in connection with the undertakers, mentions lifting Sheila's body from the floor to the bed, or vice versa , but what can be used as a reliable reference point are the contents of PS Woodcocks statement (aforementioned) which provides an accurate account of how Sheila`s body was wrapped in a sheet and removed - the photograph I have seen (at Ewens office) of Sheila`s body on the bed, was not wrapped in any body sheet, nor dit it appear as though it had been...