Essex police refuse to produce schedule for Senior Investigating Officers album

[shonapugs]

Allow me. JB lied, stole, dealt drugs, tried to peddle images of his dead sister.....want any more?

[Hartley]

How on earth could Sheila have came to rest in that position this picture is so wrong.

Exactly , if experienced police officer's saw the body like this , they would have been shouting from the rooftop's , this body as been stage managed to look like a suicide , but not one of EP finest made one mention of it !! Which beg's the question , Why ?

What about taking a different angle. If it was so obvious, then surely the police officers would have staged the body better?

I don't think it was so obvious.

They did not think they were going to have to set JB up for murder at the time IMO !!

I assume that's a joke right?

It's far from a joke !!

So it's okay for you to say it's obviously staged, why didn't the police notice, but then you are quite happy to belive it was the police who badly and obviously staged the body. So your question was rhetorical?

The joke is that you accuse me of being selective, why did you single me out to ask for my take on Jeremy's list of allegations? Bearing in mind that you are clearly not interested in my view, being so steadfast in your own views, the exact thing that you accuse me of. 

Fair enough, that's your opinion, I apologise, I really did get the impression you were making a joke, but clearly not.

I am quite happy to read your view's regarding his guilt , feel free to point me in that direction anytime !!

I don't believe I've made any posts of that nature, well not many and none that I recall, the whole focus is on proving his innocence, not his guilt, in fact during the 2002 appeal the prosecution were refused permission to introduce new evidence to further their case.

You can accuse me of being one sided and biased to which I freely admit, but please do not pretend that you yourself are open to alternative views because from your reply above, clearly you are not.

I'd also appreciate it if you did not address further questions towards me, as you are clearly not interested in my answer other than to try and pick holes in it, again the very thing you accuse me of doing.

Thank you.

[grahameb]

How on earth could Sheila have came to rest in that position this picture is so wrong.

Exactly , if experienced police officer's saw the body like this , they would have been shouting from the rooftop's , this body as been stage managed to look like a suicide , but not one of EP finest made one mention of it !! Which beg's the question , Why ?

What about taking a different angle. If it was so obvious, then surely the police officers would have staged the body better?

I don't think it was so obvious.

I agree. Wouldn't they have put her right thumb on the trigger, and her left hand around the barrel?

Wouldn't JB as well?

[Hartley]

How on earth could Sheila have came to rest in that position this picture is so wrong.

Exactly , if experienced police officer's saw the body like this , they would have been shouting from the rooftop's , this body as been stage managed to look like a suicide , but not one of EP finest made one mention of it !! Which beg's the question , Why ?

What about taking a different angle. If it was so obvious, then surely the police officers would have staged the body better?

I don't think it was so obvious.

I agree. Wouldn't they have put her right thumb on the trigger, and her left hand around the barrel?

Wouldn't JB as well?

Precisely, either scenario fits.

[shonapugs]

How on earth could Sheila have came to rest in that position this picture is so wrong.

Exactly , if experienced police officer's saw the body like this , they would have been shouting from the rooftop's , this body as been stage managed to look like a suicide , but not one of EP finest made one mention of it !! Which beg's the question , Why ?

What about taking a different angle. If it was so obvious, then surely the police officers would have staged the body better?

I don't think it was so obvious.

I agree. Wouldn't they have put her right thumb on the trigger, and her left hand around the barrel?

Wouldn't JB as well?

Not if he wasn't there.

[chochokeira]

How on earth could Sheila have came to rest in that position this picture is so wrong.

Exactly , if experienced police officer's saw the body like this , they would have been shouting from the rooftop's , this body as been stage managed to look like a suicide , but not one of EP finest made one mention of it !! Which beg's the question , Why ?

What about taking a different angle. If it was so obvious, then surely the police officers would have staged the body better?

I don't think it was so obvious.

They did not think they were going to have to set JB up for murder at the time IMO !!

I assume that's a joke right?

It's far from a joke !!

So it's okay for you to say it's obviously staged, why didn't the police notice, but then you are quite happy to belive it was the police who badly and obviously staged the body. So your question was rhetorical?

The joke is that you accuse me of being selective, why did you single me out to ask for my take on Jeremy's list of allegations? Bearing in mind that you are clearly not interested in my view, being so steadfast in your own views, the exact thing that you accuse me of. 

Fair enough, that's your opinion, I apologise, I really did get the impression you were making a joke, but clearly not.

I am quite happy to read your view's regarding his guilt , feel free to point me in that direction anytime !!

I don't believe I've made any posts of that nature, well not many and none that I recall, the whole focus is on proving his innocence, not his guilt, in fact during the 2002 appeal the prosecution were refused permission to introduce new evidence to further their case.

You can accuse me of being one sided and biased to which I freely admit, but please do not pretend that you yourself are open to alternative views because from your reply above, clearly you are not.

I'd also appreciate it if you did not address further questions towards me, as you are clearly not interested in my answer other than to try and pick holes in it, again the very thing you accuse me of doing.

Thank you.

Congratulations, Jon, you've just joined the elite group of people that Hartley's sent to Coventry.

....Well, we're not very elite, actually, as there were about 36 of us at last count.

And the bar isn't set very high: the sole criteria is to ask a question that he doesn't wish to answer.

[shonapugs]

Why does this make you happy? Hartley is the only one left on here who is erudite and makes sense. Why piss on your chips?

[Hartley]

How on earth could Sheila have came to rest in that position this picture is so wrong.

Exactly , if experienced police officer's saw the body like this , they would have been shouting from the rooftop's , this body as been stage managed to look like a suicide , but not one of EP finest made one mention of it !! Which beg's the question , Why ?

What about taking a different angle. If it was so obvious, then surely the police officers would have staged the body better?

I don't think it was so obvious.

They did not think they were going to have to set JB up for murder at the time IMO !!

I assume that's a joke right?

It's far from a joke !!

So it's okay for you to say it's obviously staged, why didn't the police notice, but then you are quite happy to belive it was the police who badly and obviously staged the body. So your question was rhetorical?

The joke is that you accuse me of being selective, why did you single me out to ask for my take on Jeremy's list of allegations? Bearing in mind that you are clearly not interested in my view, being so steadfast in your own views, the exact thing that you accuse me of. 

Fair enough, that's your opinion, I apologise, I really did get the impression you were making a joke, but clearly not.

I am quite happy to read your view's regarding his guilt , feel free to point me in that direction anytime !!

I don't believe I've made any posts of that nature, well not many and none that I recall, the whole focus is on proving his innocence, not his guilt, in fact during the 2002 appeal the prosecution were refused permission to introduce new evidence to further their case.

You can accuse me of being one sided and biased to which I freely admit, but please do not pretend that you yourself are open to alternative views because from your reply above, clearly you are not.

I'd also appreciate it if you did not address further questions towards me, as you are clearly not interested in my answer other than to try and pick holes in it, again the very thing you accuse me of doing.

Thank you.

Congratulations, Jon, you've just joined the elite group of people that Hartley's sent to Coventry.

....Well, we're not very elite, actually, as there were about 36 of us at last count.

And the bar isn't set very high: the sole criteria is to ask a question that he doesn't wish to answer.

Get a grip, I have been more than accommodating in answering direct questions.

The reason I've stopped giving you the time of day and will continue to not do so, is because if you check your recent post history, 15 out of your last 20 or so posts have been all about digging into me. So it's hardly surprising really, is it? In fact you don't need to answer that.

[chochokeira]

Why does this make you happy? Hartley is the only one left on here who is erudite and makes sense. Why piss on your chips?

There we'll have to disagree, Shon'.

[chochokeira]

How on earth could Sheila have came to rest in that position this picture is so wrong.

Exactly , if experienced police officer's saw the body like this , they would have been shouting from the rooftop's , this body as been stage managed to look like a suicide , but not one of EP finest made one mention of it !! Which beg's the question , Why ?

What about taking a different angle. If it was so obvious, then surely the police officers would have staged the body better?

I don't think it was so obvious.

They did not think they were going to have to set JB up for murder at the time IMO !!

I assume that's a joke right?

It's far from a joke !!

So it's okay for you to say it's obviously staged, why didn't the police notice, but then you are quite happy to belive it was the police who badly and obviously staged the body. So your question was rhetorical?

The joke is that you accuse me of being selective, why did you single me out to ask for my take on Jeremy's list of allegations? Bearing in mind that you are clearly not interested in my view, being so steadfast in your own views, the exact thing that you accuse me of. 

Fair enough, that's your opinion, I apologise, I really did get the impression you were making a joke, but clearly not.

I am quite happy to read your view's regarding his guilt , feel free to point me in that direction anytime !!

I don't believe I've made any posts of that nature, well not many and none that I recall, the whole focus is on proving his innocence, not his guilt, in fact during the 2002 appeal the prosecution were refused permission to introduce new evidence to further their case.

You can accuse me of being one sided and biased to which I freely admit, but please do not pretend that you yourself are open to alternative views because from your reply above, clearly you are not.

I'd also appreciate it if you did not address further questions towards me, as you are clearly not interested in my answer other than to try and pick holes in it, again the very thing you accuse me of doing.

Thank you.

Congratulations, Jon, you've just joined the elite group of people that Hartley's sent to Coventry.

....Well, we're not very elite, actually, as there were about 36 of us at last count.

And the bar isn't set very high: the sole criteria is to ask a question that he doesn't wish to answer.

Get a grip, I have been more than accommodating in answering direct questions.

The reason I've stopped giving you the time of day and will continue to not do so, is because if you check your recent post history, 15 out of your last 20 or so posts have been all about digging into me. So it's hardly surprising really, is it? In fact you don't need to answer that.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Hartley. The reason for that is most of your last c 50 posts have been all about attacking and insulting Mike. So it's hardly surprising really, is it? In fact you don't need to answer that either.

[shonapugs]

OK. That's fine. But please don't have a pop at Hartley. I don't mind if it's open season on me, I deserve it after my attack on smiffy, he's a plonker, but Hartley is  honest and true. IMO.

[shonapugs]

Why is there no log of Ralph calling the police?

[chochokeira]

OK. That's fine. But please don't have a pop at Hartley. I don't mind if it's open season on me, I deserve it after my attack on smiffy, he's a plonker, but Hartley is  honest and true. IMO.

But I like you, Shon'. Anyway, while H was off the forum my smite ratio, pluses to minuses, fell to almost zero. Since H's return, I've been systematically smited. He sure gives me the time of day alright via that smite button.


*Apologies, too tired to be posting. My smite ratio had fallen to almost 1:1, with smites and pluses almost equal. It's now climbing like Billy-o again.

[shonapugs]

I dearly love you, Choch, but  who gives a flying fuck about smites? I'm covered in them. Hey ho.

Answer me this,Choch. Why is there no log of Ralph calling anyone on that night?

[jackiepreece]

Hartley
Why are you so rude to everyone you really have got a problem

You have been at it with Mike and Keira for days and now you have been rude to Jon maybe your wife needs sorting you out with another candle