Further extension of time for response to CCRC

[Steve A]

I thought the audio recordings had all been destroyed, is that not the case then?

I believe I have read that there are copies of these, Steve.

Well if there are, then that would clear up the one dead male, one dead female thing. Surely it's in their best intrest to disclose them.

[chochokeira]

Don't the CCRC want justice

[Jackiepreece]

It always sticks in my mind that brilliant film in the name of the father where Emma Thompsons character by mistake manages to get to see the hidden evidence thats frees the guildford four.  I know its not completely accurate but I have always thought I would like to meet Gareth Pierce the solicitor whos part Emma Thompson played.  I love to read her stuff.

I bet sitting in the vaults is hidden evidence that JB could walk out of prison tomorrow

[chochokeira]

I thought the audio recordings had all been destroyed, is that not the case then?

I believe I have read that there are copies of these, Steve.

Well if there are, then that would clear up the one dead male, one dead female thing. Surely it's in their best intrest to disclose them.

You and I would think so. Any reasonable person would agree.

Yet, aside from a drip feed of very limited amounts of evidence released many years after the trial, such release being solely due to legal or public pressure, the majority of this crucial evidence is still withheld from defence and or CCRC.

If the CCRC continue to refuse to use their powers to access this evidence then the public will make up their own minds about what possible reason the CCRC might have for that refusal.

[ngb1066]

It always sticks in my mind that brilliant film in the name of the father where Emma Thompsons character by mistake manages to get to see the hidden evidence thats frees the guildford four.  I know its not completely accurate but I have always thought I would like to meet Gareth Pierce the solicitor whos part Emma Thompson played.  I love to read her stuff.

I bet sitting in the vaults is hidden evidence that JB could walk out of prison tomorrow

I was instructed in several cases in the Crown Court by Gareth Pierce.  She was always totally dedicated to her clients and was very thorough in her case preparation.  She is a surprisingly modest person who is very easy to get on with.

I suspect you are right about hidden evidence.  If the defence team could have access to all the withheld material I am sure they would find evidence which would be extremely useful in an appeal.  The fact that Essex Police have consistently resisted disclosure speaks volumes in my view.
   

     

[mike tesko]

information and evidence Which is/has been withheld under pii, which claims to be Withheld in the public interest, is not being withheld in the public interest at all, it is being withheld in the interests of Essex police, the DPP/CPS, and the integrity of the judicial system...

[Jackiepreece]

Wow Ngb you have met Gareth Pierce so everything I have read about her is true because I read she hates being in the limelight and she just lives in a normal semi detached house in south London. What a girl certainly someone special

[Roch]

It always sticks in my mind that brilliant film in the name of the father where Emma Thompsons character by mistake manages to get to see the hidden evidence thats frees the guildford four.  I know its not completely accurate but I have always thought I would like to meet Gareth Pierce the solicitor whos part Emma Thompson played.  I love to read her stuff.

I bet sitting in the vaults is hidden evidence that JB could walk out of prison tomorrow

Have you ever seen those war movies where the Germans are on the back foot and about to vacate the swankiest building in whatever European city they've been occupying?  Cue frantic emptying of cabinets, all destined for the bonfire out the back.  I reckon half the stuff that JB's been asking for has gone up in smoke already.

[curiousessex]

Curiousessex yesterday we had another head case on here spouting they knew the secret that Jeremys application to the ccrc granting his leave to appeal had already been turned down


I always like to give these people the benefit of doubt so i went straight back to his campaign team although Ngb had already made it clear it was going to be another fabrication


This is what i was told yesterday

He is talking rubbish the psor is the only document handed out by the commission that was in Feb no other document been issued so the author of this email is a crank

Jeremys team thought it was an email but I had cut and pasted and sent the email but you can quite clearly understand what they are saying

If you have any further knowledge from inside the ccrc please share it with the forum we would all love to know now rather than wait weeks

Jackie

Are you politely saying I am a head case given your opening sentence?

Curiousessex yesterday we had another head case on here spouting they knew the secret that Jeremys application to the ccrc granting his leave to appeal had already been turned down

For the avoidance of doubt I was just expressing an opinion hence my use of the words 'It seems to me the CCRC are preparing the ground to say........'

If you have gone straight back to Jeremy's campaign team on the basis of my post I must apologise for appearing to have wasted your time.

My opinioned statement is neither pro nor anti Jeremy.

[mertol22]

It always sticks in my mind that brilliant film in the name of the father where Emma Thompsons character by mistake manages to get to see the hidden evidence thats frees the guildford four.  I know its not completely accurate but I have always thought I would like to meet Gareth Pierce the solicitor whos part Emma Thompson played.  I love to read her stuff.

I bet sitting in the vaults is hidden evidence that JB could walk out of prison tomorrow

Have you ever seen those war movies where the Germans are on the back foot and about to vacate the swankiest building in whatever European city they've been occupying?  Cue frantic emptying of cabinets, all destined for the bonfire out the back.  I reckon half the stuff that JB's been asking for has gone up in smoke already.

I have seen many such a film Roch, however i still believe whatever there is under PII relating to this case still exists.

[Jackiepreece]

Curiousessex
I have never called you a head case I think you know exactly who I am talking about people who come on this forum and say they have worked on the farm and think the relatives are wonderful

How stupid do people think we are

The relatives aren't wonderful or they would be pushing for everything to be released under PII to put this case to bed once and for all

I can actually even imagine Anne eaton sitting at the computer tapping in the post who did they call thereselves someone from tollesbury


If the relatives have nothing to hide they could have put this to bed years ago

[curiousessex]

Curiousessex
I have never called you a head case I think you know exactly who I am talking about people who come on this forum and say they have worked on the farm and think the relatives are wonderful

How stupid do people think we are

The relatives aren't wonderful or they would be pushing for everything to be released under PII to put this case to bed once and for all

I can actually even imagine Anne eaton sitting at the computer tapping in the post who did they call thereselves someone from tollesbury


If the relatives have nothing to hide they could have put this to bed years ago

Jackie

Thank you for the head case clarification.

Unfortunately I will have to plead innocence with regard to knowing to whom you are referring. Maybe I have misread / misunderstood your post.

On the point of the relatives and PII I would doubt even if the relatives have made written requests for details to be released under PII this would have little or no bearing on securing the release of such information.

[Roch]

CCRC has gone from being 'open ended' re submissions.. to 9th December deadline?