Bullet Wounds to Daniel Caffell

[mike tesko]

Bullet Wounds to Daniel Caffell

During autopsy, which was performed on 8th August 1985, Pathologist, Peter Venezis, recovered four bullets, PV/29 , PV/34 , PV/35 , and PV/36 ...

Since, Daniel was shot five times, and Daniel had two exit wounds, with only one loose bullet found in the children's bedroom, there must have been one bullet, which was not recovered by the Pathologist... Since, there should have been two bullets found in the children's bedroom but there was only one...

[mike tesko]

The Undiscovered bullet from the corpse of Daniel Caffell

He was shot five times, but only four bullets, were recovered, during autopsy, on 8th August 1985...

Pathologist, Peter Venezis, can only confirm that four bullets were recovered during autopsy on 8th August 1985 - a bullet is missing, or unaccounted for, which if you add to the twenty five bullets which form part and parcel of the batch of crime scene ammunition, produces a total of 26 bullets, not 25...

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Bullet Wounds to Daniel Caffell

During autopsy, which was performed on 8th August 1985, Pathologist, Peter Venezis, recovered four bullets, PV/29 , PV/34 , PV/35 , and PV/36 ...

Since, Daniel was shot five times, and Daniel had no exit wounds, so there must have been one bullet, which was not recovered by the Pathologist...

Mike, I don't understand. The diagram seems to indicate two exit wounds to the front of the head?

[Kaldin]

Bullet Wounds to Daniel Caffell

During autopsy, which was performed on 8th August 1985, Pathologist, Peter Venezis, recovered four bullets, PV/29 , PV/34 , PV/35 , and PV/36 ...

Since, Daniel was shot five times, and Daniel had no exit wounds, so there must have been one bullet, which was not recovered by the Pathologist...

Mike, I don't understand. The diagram seems to indicate two exit wounds to the front of the head?

I'm confused too. If he was shot five times, and there were two exit wounds, how could the pathologist have recovered four bullets?

[andrea]

if there were 2 exit wounds the pathologist should have recovered 3 bullets (am i getting this right) ?

[Kaldin]

if there were 2 exit wounds the pathologist should have recovered 3 bullets (am i getting this right) ?

I would have thought so, yes.

[andrea]

the other 2 should have been found near or on his bed

[mike tesko]

the other 2 should have been found near or on his bed

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But...

only one loose bullet, was recovered from the bedroom, by the police, so what happened to the other two bullets?

[Kaldin]

the other 2 should have been found near or on his bed

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But...

only one loose bullet, was recovered from the bedroom, by the police, so what happened to the other two bullets?

Why did you say that Daniel had no exit wounds?

[mike tesko]

the other 2 should have been found near or on his bed

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But...

only one loose bullet, was recovered from the bedroom, by the police, so what happened to the other two bullets?

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sorry, mistype, should read two exit wounds. I will rectify that mistake immediately...

Why did you say that Daniel had no exit wounds?

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Why did you say that Daniel had no exit wounds?

That is what I was getting at. If you look at the drawings of the other victims, there are also discrepancies between the number of exit wounds stated by Mike and the number of exit wounds indicated on the diagrams.

Can you shed any light on this Mike?

[Kaldin]

sorry, mistype, should read two exit wounds. I will rectify that mistake immediately...

Cheers. It still doesn't make sense though. If there were two exit wounds how did the pathologist find four bullets in him?

[mike tesko]

Why did you say that Daniel had no exit wounds?

That is what I was getting at. If you look at the drawings of the other victims, there are also discrepancies between the number of exit wounds stated by Mike and the number of exit wounds indicated on the diagrams.

Can you shed any light on this Mike?

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Yes, these discrepancies came about because of an agreement which was reached between the pathologist Peter Venezis, and the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher - where they reached some sort of an agreement about the discrepancies we are now talking about....

They settled in the end for Ralph to have been shot eight times, June to Have been shot seven times, Sheila to have been shot twice, Daniel to have been shot five times and Nicholas to have been shot three times. This agreement came about once the nature of the investigation altered from the old file under SC/688/85, into the new file, under SC/786/85...

The diagrams which show the bullet entry and exit wounds are from the old file, under SC/688/85, which show additional exit wounds in the bodies of June Bamber, and Daniel Caffell, where June has four exit wounds, and Daniel Caffell has two...

Of course, if this were true there should have been two additional bullets found at the scene, a total of 27 bullets fired, instead of 25...

If so, where are the two missing bullet cases?

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Thanks for that Mike. I think I am getting my head around this better now. I see now where your theory of 27 bullets being fired came from.

[mike tesko]

sorry, mistype, should read two exit wounds. I will rectify that mistake immediately...

Cheers. It still doesn't make sense though. If there were two exit wounds how did the pathologist find four bullets in him?

... Well, actually, according to the pathologist, he recovered one bullet that was partially out of one of the two exit wounds, we have been talking about. So one of the two exit wounds is accounted for by this explanation...