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[Sparkfilms]

Thanx for the recent pm's, private emails and telephone calls.

It would be great if everyone could explain what they thought happened at WHF in no more than 150 words.

Can we get something together that is straight and to the point.

None of the cryptic stuff, and please, nothing from the books.

I too have read the books - let's just pretend they were never written.

Let's see how many people are brave enough to put their theory across in plain simple language.

If anything comes up the media will react.

Much peace to all.

[smiffy]

Sheila kills the other 4.
Police force entry and one is a bit like Bewes and panics and shoots Sheila.
Police cover up they shot Sheila.
When initial plan to cover up as a suicide falls apart due to incompetence and nosey relatives the switch to framing JB happens with relatives only too willing to do anything it takes to get hold of the inheritence.

[Sparkfilms]

Thanx Smiffy - that's a good start!

This was why I wanted to see a picture of the entire corpse of Shelia Caffell.

Our 'friends' in Australia and New Zealand seem to support this theory, at least, I think that's what they are trying to say.

[shonapugs]

Thanx for the recent pm's, private emails and telephone calls.

It would be great if everyone could explain what they thought happened at WHF in no more than 150 words.

Can we get something together that is straight and to the point.

None of the cryptic stuff, and please, nothing from the books.

I too have read the books - let's just pretend they were never written.

Let's see how many people are brave enough to put their theory across in plain simple language.

If anything comes up the media will react.

Much peace to all.

I have no problem with bravery, Sparks. My theory has always been out there. And I am quite well read. There isn't the slightest possibilty that Sheila killed her entire family, battled with Ralph, ran around the house almost naked, shot herself in the throat, roused herself, ran upstairs, with no bloodshed, then shot herself again. What on earth are you pro-JBers seeing? Why do you insist that he is innocent?

[shonapugs]

And seriously, Mike, why isn't JB more angry? You are more angry, on his behalf. If I was him, I would rail every day about my life melting away, hour after hour, day after day, if I was innocent. Why does he let others fight his battle?

[shonapugs]

Mike, I know you're there. Why does JB sit back and let you and Jackie fight for him?

[chochokeira]

There isn't the slightest possibilty that Sheila....battled with RalphWhat on earth are you pro-JBers seeing? Why do you insist that he is innocent?

Please watch this, Shona.

Petite woman murders body builder husband by stabbing him 192 times:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6487113n

[chochokeira]

 There isn't the slightest possibilty that Sheila killed her entire family,

And the following:

A "psychological autopsy" holds the key to finding a motive for a murder-suicide in which a woman killed her husband, her two children and herself in a crime that may be without parallel in Australia.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Disbelief-as-mother-kills-her-family/2005/03/21/1111253955162.html

[shonapugs]

Yes, Choch, I get it. But search your soul.

[chochokeira]

Let's see how many people are brave enough to put their theory across in

There isn't the slightest possibilty that Sheila ran around the house almost naked, shot herself in the throat, roused herself, ran upstairs, with no bloodshed, then shot herself again.

Few if us claim Sheila was almost naked if and when she killed her family, Shon', as for the rest...

A man whose body was pulled from the Mississippi River on Sunday had shot himself five times with a .22-caliber handgun before driving from his Godfrey home to the Clark Bridge in Alton and fatally throwing himself into the waters below, authorities said.

Franklin E. Carver, 67, of the 2700 block of Greenwood Lane, shot himself five times - three times in the head and twice in the chest - inside his home Wednesday, but none of the shots was immediately fatal, authorities said. Carver then got into his customized van and drove 10 minutes to the Clark Bridge, where he parked in the bicycle lane and jumped off the south side of the bridge as a frantic motorist called 911 from a cell phone."

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hf5KU1v5HAgJ:www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-137320.html+suicide+shoots+himself+three+times&cd=27&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

[chochokeira]

Let's see how many people are brave enough to put their theory across in

There isn't the slightest possibilty that Sheila ran around the house almost naked, shot herself in the throat, roused herself, ran upstairs, with no bloodshed, then shot herself again.

Another one, there are so many of these cases to choose from:

Suicide walks 150 meters as he shoots himself three times:

In February 1995, a man committed suicide on parkland in Canberra, Australia. He took a pump action shotgun and shot himself in the chest. The load passed through the chest without hitting a rib, and went out the other side. He then walked fifteen meters, reloaded, leaned the shotgun against his throat, and shot his throat and part of his jaw. He then reloaded, walked 136 meters to a hill slope, lay down on the slope, held the gun against his chest with his hands and operated the trigger with his toes. This shot entered the thoracic cavity and demolished the heart, killing him.[5]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QTuefIovXIYJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_gunshot_suicide+Suicide+shot+three+times+australia&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

[chochokeira]

Yes, Choch, I get it. But search your soul.

This is what my soul tells me about Sheila:

"I feel certain that I'm going mad again. I feel we can't go thru another of those terrible times. And I shan't recover this time. I begin to hear voices."
Suicide note
~~ Virginia Woolf, author, d. March 28, 1941

[chochokeira]

Mike, I know you're there. Why does JB sit back and let you and Jackie fight for him?

That's untrue, Shon', Jeremy works on his pile of (a million or more?) documents every day to find data for his applications to the CCRC and his Appeal. And there is a major difference between Jeremy's circumstances and Mike's and Jackie's, isn't there? What Jeremy can do is heavily constrained by his imprisonment.

What do you want Jeremy to do, Shona, break out of prison?

[Alias]

In short, I believe that Sheila in a worsened state of her illness first shot her sons, thus waking up her parents. Maybe Nevill ran downstairs immediately to call for help, then upstairs again to try to prevent more damage. In the meantime, June was shot (maybe just once). Nevill was shot once in the bedroom, then, at gunpoint, led downstairs (no more rounds in the rifle, Nevill couldn't know that).
The fight, possible reloading or another gun was ready downstairs. He was shot. Upstairs, June had tried to get to the twins, but heard the commotion downstairs and turned around, maybe she collapsed at the door then. Sheila upstairs again, shooting June (still alive) again a few times.
Sheila cleaned up (her hair in the crime scene photos looks like freshly washed hair that hasn't been combed.) Maybe she ate. She wore the socks and went upstairs to her mother at some point (perhaps hours later) and shot herself after removing the socks.

Maybe this is totally out there, but this is roughly how I imagine events that night.
I have to apologize to Sheila if I am wrong. It is a horrible thing to say about someone who is possibly a victim of a murder herself. Sorry Sheila, if I am wrong.

[andrea]

Sparks who are our "friends" in aus and NZ?