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chochokeira

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Re: Jeremy Pictures
« Reply #90 on: August 18, 2011, 11:58:PM »
im regretting posting the pictures i have put up already, i feel a bit shitty because ive done it  :(

i said earlier the pics when i look at them in a book dont bother me, but now theyre on here its really got to me and im not sure ive done the right thing to be honest.

The pictures we have seen on here so far have mostly been about the night in question and we have studied and scrutinised them to see what we can "tell" from them. But now the family pics are now along side them its given it a more "human" feel, not just something to pick over. does that make sense  :-\

Yes, it does make sense, Andrea. I think it's good to see their human dimension, however, I do understand how you feel.

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« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2011, 12:21:AM »
Andrea, anyone can go to Amazon and purchase the book, thus seeing the pictures.
You haven“t done anything wrong in my opinion.

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« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2011, 12:21:AM »
Andrea,dont feel bad hun.If Colin felt the pics to be private,he would not have put them out there for public consumption.
Regarding the childrens drawings,I think that they are very chilling,especially coming from children that were only 6 years old.Those poor little boys.It must have been bad enough to witness their mothers decline in her mental health,but the drawings seem to show that it was Junes behaviour that was in actual fact disturbing their little minds  :(

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« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2011, 12:23:AM »
Andrea,dont feel bad hun.If Colin felt the pics to be private,he would not have put them out there for public consumption.
Regarding the childrens drawings,I think that they are very chilling,especially coming from children that were only 6 years old.Those poor little boys.It must have been bad enough to witness their mothers decline in her mental health,but the drawings seem to show that it was Junes behaviour that was in actual fact disturbing their little minds  :(

NOW I am curious to see those drawings!

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« Reply #94 on: August 19, 2011, 12:24:AM »
the pictures are disturbing, especially the one with the sun bleeding or vomiting over whitehouse farm.

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« Reply #95 on: August 19, 2011, 12:26:AM »
the pictures are disturbing, especially the one with the sun bleeding or vomiting over whitehouse farm.

Isnt there one aswell,of June as the devil and naked?That was weird!
Will have to dig my book back out.

chochokeira

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« Reply #96 on: August 19, 2011, 12:31:AM »
im regretting posting the pictures i have put up already, i feel a bit shitty because ive done it  :(

i said earlier the pics when i look at them in a book dont bother me, but now theyre on here its really got to me and im not sure ive done the right thing to be honest.

The pictures we have seen on here so far have mostly been about the night in question and we have studied and scrutinised them to see what we can "tell" from them. But now the family pics are now along side them its given it a more "human" feel, not just something to pick over. does that make sense  :-\

Don't be daft, Andy. The pictures are all out there already, if people want to find them. I, for one, don't ever want to lose the human feel of this case.

You know that I said I'd ordered a copy of Colin's book? I really thought I'd done so, but it turned out that I'd ordered the Lomax book and did not order Colin's. So I shall have to start all over again with that.

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Re: Jeremy Pictures
« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2011, 12:46:AM »
scotts book is a good read choc  :)

chochokeira

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Re: Jeremy Pictures
« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2011, 08:01:AM »
scotts book is a good read choc  :)


It is a good read, Andrea, though I prefer the Wilkes book so far because Wilkes details the substantial amount of research he did - and I don't doubt that he did this research. I'm critical though of both of these books - and of Shaw's manuscript too - because not one of the authors of these three analyses of the case provides the sort of detailed notes and bibliography of sources that is essential for real credibility.

I accept that these books are not written by academics and that different standards apply to books written outside academia. However, any serious author who wishes to make the sort of claims these three authors do must would make themselves accountable to their readers by detailing their sources. Without such substantiation, their work has less credibility.

At the same time, I can understand why they fail to fully attribute their sources. Detailing sources is of course difficult, time consuming and costly, even under normal circumstances. To do so in respect of a case as complex as this one, which has generated a gigantic paper trail running into millions of documents, would be a nightmare and would probably require the same amount of time that it took to write these books or the manuscript in the first place. Yet none of these books are ever going to make a lot of money and my guess is that a detailed bibliography of the sort I wish to see would probably mean they would make a loss. So I'm really asking too much of these authors.

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« Reply #99 on: August 19, 2011, 05:38:PM »
the following pictures were drawn by daniel and given by daniel to colins mother, just a few weeks before the twins died, daniel was emphatic that his gran kept the pictures and make them into a book.

Colin didnt see the pictures until six months after the shootings. They are pictures of whitehouse farm and june.

this picture shows the sun over whitehouse whf farm, with red pouring from its mouth

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« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2011, 05:44:PM »
this picture is of june, her teeth are bared and she red gushing from her head in several places, colin believes the pictures show anxiety around the house itself.

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Re: Jeremy Pictures
« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2011, 06:28:PM »
that picture seems to say more than a thousand words could about the little boys views on June.

chochokeira

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Re: Jeremy Pictures
« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2011, 07:26:PM »
Sheila and Jeremy were beautiful children.

Oh, God, the picture of Nevill with the twins brought tears to my eyes. It puts it all into perspective seeing those pictures.


It's heartbreaking to look at some of these pictures.

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Re: Jeremy Pictures
« Reply #103 on: August 19, 2011, 09:24:PM »

Thank you so much for posting the photographs and drawings, andrea.
I have the book by Colin Caffell too and I think that the illustrations add
depth and dimension to the tragic events of 1985.
How about posting the full set of Daniel's drawings here?
They are so chilling especially when viewed as the book that he wanted them to
be made into!
Why oh why did the twins  ever get taken back to Whitehouse Farm?
I say this because Sheila reportedly declined still further after each of her visits
their and the boys were in tears about the way June made them pray even when
they were brushing their teeth.

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Re: Jeremy Pictures
« Reply #104 on: August 19, 2011, 10:03:PM »
another of whf