Home phones ringing indefinately in 1985

[Adam]

Yes, thats more like it, Adam.
So can we rule out a call to Julie at 3.00 as claimed by the prosecution?

I think it's quite possible he rang Julie at 3.00am. As SB & HE said. Then told the police Nevill rang him 'around 3.10am.

Jeremy is not the sharpest tool in the box. 

But appreciate you believe my other timeline.

[Rob_]

I'm a guilter & don't think Jeremy's self imposed 16 minute gap is incriminating!:

He has said himself he -"

Rang Julie.

Tried ringing dad back.

Looked through Yello Pages.

Tried to ring Withham.

Oh come on you have been going on for years about searching through Yellow pages!

If he answers his own call he would immediately ring the police as soon as the line clears assuming he is guilty. If innocent I agree no rush.

[Adam]

Oh come on you have been going on for years about searching through Yellow pages!

If he answers his own call he would immediately ring the police as soon as the line clears assuming he is guilty. If innocent I agree no rush.

There is a 16 minute gap from 'around 3.10am' to 3.26am.

Bamber has given a list of things he did during that time.

Guilters have a different list.

Both sides agree he phoned Julie during this time window.

[Adam]

Seems that Rob thinks Jeremy's 'around 3.10am' is wrong. Nevill calling him nearer 3.26am.

Jeremy would still need several minutes to 'try to call dad back', ring Julie,  look through Yellow Pages & call Witham.

[Adam]

Seems Rob believes there should have been a 12 minute gap between Nevill"s call & ringing the police -

2 mins to wait for the line to clear.

2 mins to try to call dad back.

2 mins to ring Julie.

2 mins to look through Yellow Pages for Witham. .

2 mins to ring Witham.

2 mins to look through Yello Pages for Chelmsford.

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I don't believe 16 minutes from 'around 3.10am' incriminates Jeremy.

[Steve_uk]

Oh come on you have been going on for years about searching through Yellow pages!

If he answers his own call he would immediately ring the police as soon as the line clears assuming he is guilty. If innocent I agree no rush.

But that was Jeremy's own admission, Rob. How do you explain the time lag between him receiving Nevill's call and him bothering to inform police?

[Adam]

But that was Jeremy's own admission, Rob. How do you explain the time lag between him receiving Nevill's call and him bothering to inform police?

Rob is saying Jeremy should have rang the police within a minute or two.

So is saying Jeremy lied about the 6 things he said he did. Listed in reply 64.

[Rob_]

But that was Jeremy's own admission, Rob. How do you explain the time lag between him receiving Nevill's call and him bothering to inform police?

I am simply rebutting Adams theory JB answered his own call Steve.

Surely it's a no brainer JB would call the police approx 2 minutes after the line cleared if guilty, why create a 15 minute gap for no reason?

It's time Adam stopped all this nonsense, he cannot give a logical reason so floods the forum with total rubbish.

[snow66!]

I am simply rebutting Adams theory JB answered his own call Steve.

Surely it's a no brainer JB would call the police approx 2 minutes after the line cleared if guilty, why create a 15 minute gap for no reason?

It's time Adam stopped all this nonsense, he cannot give a logical reason so floods the forum with total rubbish.

I dont know if a phone will ring indefinitely or not, Rob, well in 1985 anyway, but if it could, why didn't JB bike home, wash etc, 'and only then' answer his own call?
As you say, to avoid suspicion why leave a gap between the the call he made from WHF and his call to the police?

[ILB]

Jeremy brings up telecom check references in the interview with Stan.

So he was confident from any side.

[Adam]

I dont know if a phone will ring indefinitely or not, Rob, well in 1985 anyway, but if it could, why didn't JB bike home, wash etc, 'and only then' answer his own call?
As you say, to avoid suspicion why leave a gap between the the call he made from WHF and his call to the police?

My thread post says a phone would ring until answered or the caller hung up.

Rob is contradicting himself.

Saying a guilty Jeremy would have rang the police within 2 minutes.

Then saying he believes all the things an innocent Jeremy said he did do before ringing the police.  Which would have taken 12 minutes! 

[Adam]

The 16 minute gap between answering his own call & ringing Chelmsford Police is fine. For either side.

Supporters can believe the 6 things he said he did in that time.

Guilters can say he got changed etc.

Both sides agree the gap is not long enough to incriminate him & that he rang Julie in the 16 minutes. 

[Cambridgecutie]

My thread post says a phone would ring until answered or the caller hung up.

Rob is contradicting himself.

Saying a guilty Jeremy would have rang the police within 2 minutes.

Then saying he believes all the things an innocent Jeremy said he did do before ringing the police.  Which would have taken 12 minutes!

I think your thread post might be wrong!  The system at Tolleshunt 7th Aug '85 was based on the Strowger which cut out after a period of time.

[Adam]

I think your thread post might be wrong!  The system at Tolleshunt 7th Aug '85 was based on the Strowger which cut out after a period of time.

Please provide your source.

[Adam]

I am a guilter and don't believe 16 minutes is incriminating.

However Jeremy has repeatedly said he rang the police at 3.36am.

A 26 minute gap is a lot more incriminating.