If the current CCRC grounds were presented in the 1986 trial

[Jonathan]

Let me know if I missed any grounds.

That Sheila was shot at a distance and could not have done it herself with a rifle

[Adam]

The disturbance at the crime scene was rejected in 2002.

If the same evidence was produced in 1986, it would not have influenced the jury.

[Adam]

You haven't properly addressed the Aga burns, Adam!
You know darned well they have nothing to do with Nevill being found on the chair/scuttle!
If it was proven in 1985/6 that the Aga did indeed burn Nevills back [for three+hrs?] this would have a profound effect on the police scenario sent to the DPP.
In fact it would demolish the police scenario which has Nevill  chased to the kitchen and killed minutes later.
Deep down, you know the Aga evidence is a big problem for those who think JB is guilty, Adam?
BUT!!! JB and his team must forget about the possibility that the police moved Nevill after entry!!

The defence would have to provide ecpert evidence that -

The burn marks match exactly the aga handle.

The aga handle would be hot enough. If on.

How long it would take for the burn marks to appear. If it only took a few minutes, the prosecution could say Jeremy lifted Nevill onto the coal scuttle prior to leaving. Raid team officers would testify Nevill was on the coal scuttle upon entrance. 

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The defence would have to provide ecpert evidence that -

The burn marks match exactly the aga handle.

The aga handle would be hot enough. If on.

How long it would take for the burn marks to appear. If it only took a few minutes, the prosecution could say Jeremy lifted Nevill onto the coal scuttle prior to leaving. Raid team officers would testify Nevill was on the coal scuttle upon entrance.

Dont think 3rd degree burns which have removed several layers of skin would occur in a few minutes, Adam?

[Adam]

Dont think 3rd degree burns which have removed several layers of skin would occur in a few minutes, Adam?

If I touched my aga plate for 5 seconds, suspect the damage would be visiable.

As said, need more than Boyce making a suggestion 2 years ago.

[Adam]

The aim of the defence in 1986 would have been to create enough reasonable doubt.

Don't believe any of the current CCRC grounds would have done that. It may have done more harm than good to the defence. Some of the grounds were discussed at trial or at other appeals.

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If I touched my aga plate for 5 seconds, suspect the damage would be visiable.

As said, need more than Boyce making a suggestion 2 years ago.

Surely they can get some of their American experts they've been using to give their opinion on Boyces Aga evidence as well as ascertaining if the burns occurred before or after death which would pinpoint when they formed, pre-3.10 or after!

[Adam]

Maybe NGB can give his opinion on whether any of the current grounds & supporting evidence with the CCRC would have been submitted at the 1986 trial. If yes, would they have influenced the jury.

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Maybe NGB can give his opinion on whether any of the current grounds & supporting evidence with the CCRC would have been submitted at the 1986 trial. If yes, would they have influenced the jury.

What about the farewell letters, did you mention them in you're list, Adam?

[Adam]

What about the farewell letters, did you mention them in you're list, Adam?

Aledged suicide note. That is probably a current ground.

Needed to be translated. Defence can claim it was a suicide note. Prosecution will say it wasn't.

Either way it is about her condition. Which was discussed at trial.

The prosecution could say the note not being legible shows Sheila could not function.

[Adam]

The prosecution could say if it was a suicide note, why wasn't it next to her?

If the letter is translated, I doubt it made any sense.

[Adam]

Regarding Nevill calling Chelmsford Police.

At trial the prosecution could also say Jeremy had told them Nevill called him as Nevill didn't like to involve the police.

So there would be West, Bonnet & Jeremy supporting no call. Together with 2 logs instead of 4.

West also did not tell Jeremy Nevill had already called him & kept him on the phone for 10 minutes while he rang Bonnet (for the first time).

Suspect the judge may have stepped in & told the defence they are wasting court time.

[Jonathan]

That Sheila was shot at a distance and could not have done it herself with a rifle

What about this one?

[Adam]

What about this one?

How could that be a current ground. It is saying someone else shot her from a distance.

[Adam]

Don't believe the defence would bring up the 999 call in 1986. If they had today's evidence.

The WS's & logs all say the engaged line was opened to listen in. Which sounds like standard practice. This matches the crime scene photo which has the phone off the cradle.

Burrell, Milbank & Jean Rowe would testify if they needed to.

Sheila ringing 999 & not saying anything is not plausible either.

Good publicity 40 years later but it has already had a PSOR. .