Channel 5 documentary 8th June 9.00 pm - 10.30 pm

[ILB]

People who want to speak to someone?

Yes people who want to speak someone.

If I had to inform a relative or friend of urgent can't wait news and it's 3am in the morning, I'm making the call, I don't give a fuck if they've got an AM or not. It wouldnt enter my thought process even if i knew they had one.

[Adam]

Yes people who want to speak someone.

If I had to inform a relative or friend of urgent can't wait news and it's 3am in the morning, I'm making the call, I don't give a fuck if they've got an AM or not. It wouldnt enter my thought process even if i knew they had one.

It was urgent news alright. Sheila had gone crazy and got the gun.

Jeremy may not receive it until the following morning when he checks his messages.

[Cambridgecutie]

Correct me if I am wrong but this evidence was adduced at trial to counter JB's claims that he tried to call his father back straight away. JB did not say that he had replaced the handset for 1-2 minutes before calling and getting an engaged tone.

I wasn't aware the expert telephone evidence at trial was a prosecution point?  It certainly does not feature in the prosecution case outlined in the CoA 2002 document. 

[Roch]

Judging by Facebook, the latest C5 offering has triggered a large amount of pro innocent interest.

[Cambridgecutie]

Judging by Facebook, the latest C5 offering has triggered a large amount of pro innocent interest.

The current world population is circa 8.3 billion.  What is the size of the Facebook 'pro innocent' interest?

Do you think the Facebook 'pro innocent' interest is likely to influence the CCRC/CoA?

[Armchair Detective]

I wasn't aware the expert telephone evidence at trial was a prosecution point?  It certainly does not feature in the prosecution case outlined in the CoA 2002 document.

You have literally quoted the CoA recounting the evidence produced at trial!

IIRC, JB claimed he tried to call his father straight back but got an engaged tone and the prosecution called the expert witness to show that Bamber's account could not be right, he would have still been connected to WHF unless he waited 1-2 minutes.

While not a prosecution point on its own, the intended effect was to show the jury that Bamber's account of his father calling was at best unreliable and at worst, a pack of lies - which was very much a prosecution point.

[Roch]

The current world population is circa 8.3 billion.  What is the size of the Facebook 'pro innocent' interest?

Do you think the Facebook 'pro innocent' interest is likely to influence the CCRC/CoA?

I think that's the wrong question. I believe in critical mass. This is the most successful attempt yet to wrestle control of the media narrative from the repetitive EP & relatives' sycophants. The Z-list media types who peddle the pro guilt bile.  There is a butterfly effect from this latest program. There comes a point where the authorities start to look stupid and corrupt to too many people for their own comfort.

[Jonathan]

I think that's the wrong question. I believe in critical mass. This is the most successful attempt yet to wrestle control of the media narrative from the repetitive EP & relatives' sycophants. The Z-list media types who peddle the pro guilt bile.  There is a butterfly effect from this latest program. There comes a point where the authorities start to look stupid and corrupt to too many people for their own comfort.

I'm not seeing this at all. There's no momentum building that I can see. The CT's twitter posts get 3 figure views and 2 figure likes.

What Jeremy needs is an MP behind him - but unlikely to happen.

[Hardy Boy]

Judging by Facebook, the latest C5 offering has triggered a large amount of pro innocent interest.

Tell me about it, I’m under pressure from all sides 🙈

[Hardy Boy]

Tell me about it, I’m under pressure from all sides 🙈

Must say, once I explained the 999 phone call rubbish, it did subside.

[Armchair Detective]

I'm not seeing this at all. There's no momentum building that I can see. The CT's twitter posts get 3 figure views and 2 figure likes.

What Jeremy needs is an MP behind him - but unlikely to happen.

Exactly. Compare Bamber's numbers with say, the 'chemtrail' loons who are also easily ignored as ill informed cranks.

[David1819]

Judging by Facebook, the latest C5 offering has triggered a large amount of pro innocent interest.

Although I'm sceptical of the Millbank subject. The parts about the suicide note, the silencer and the Barbra Wilson audio was good.

[Adam]

Judging by Facebook, the latest C5 offering has triggered a large amount of pro innocent interest.

It was a very pro innocent doc.

[Adam]

I think that's the wrong question. I believe in critical mass. This is the most successful attempt yet to wrestle control of the media narrative from the repetitive EP & relatives' sycophants. The Z-list media types who peddle the pro guilt bile.  There is a butterfly effect from this latest program. There comes a point where the authorities start to look stupid and corrupt to too many people for their own comfort.

That is a tactic of supporters. Complain about the CCRC in general as a reason for not referring.

[Roch]

It was a very pro innocent doc.

I didn't see the first 3rd but you are right about the last two 3rds.