Author Topic: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?  (Read 832 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Cambridgecutie

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6561
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2026, 03:09:PM »
How might this show the convictions are unsafe?

There's some argument to say the drawback phenomenon, which is how the prosecution argued SC's blood groups came to be inside the silencer, only happens with a hard contact wound but its a pretty moot point.  I don't think its what the CT are angling at.  I would be surprised the CT are switched on to this level of nuance.  I took the distance shot to mean the police shot SC which is just more nonsense.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

Offline Jonathan

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 402
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2026, 03:31:PM »
There's some argument to say the drawback phenomenon, which is how the prosecution argued SC's blood groups came to be inside the silencer, only happens with a hard contact wound but its a pretty moot point.  I don't think its what the CT are angling at.  I would be surprised the CT are switched on to this level of nuance. I took the distance shot to mean the police shot SC which is just more nonsense.

Ties in with the Milbank 999 call. Police stormed WHF  - found Sheila armed and dangerous - shot her dead - then staged her suicide. I'd like to see the KC's arguments regarding this.

Offline Bubo bubo

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3352
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2026, 03:31:PM »
There's some argument to say the drawback phenomenon, which is how the prosecution argued SC's blood groups came to be inside the silencer, only happens with a hard contact wound but its a pretty moot point.  I don't think its what the CT are angling at.  I would be surprised the CT are switched on to this level of nuance.  I took the distance shot to mean the police shot SC which is just more nonsense.

May be they are using the words 'distance shot' to distinguish it from the other shot. Since the crowns case rests to some extent on JB using the SM. it could negate the drawback issue as CC points out.

Offline BarefootDanC

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 973
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2026, 08:39:PM »
I think the Sun have misunderstood this part of the evidence.  I suspect "at a distance" really means not a contact shot.  Remember, the Sun have not directly investigated the case, they are picking up on other reports.

Yes there are quite a lot of mistakes in the article, probably because they allowed the author to write it without any fact-checking. For example, the article claims that Nevill "also" called 999. No-one called 999!

Online Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21097
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2026, 07:10:PM »
Ties in with the Milbank 999 call. Police stormed WHF  - found Sheila armed and dangerous - shot her dead - then staged her suicide. I'd like to see the KC's arguments regarding this.
Why not just say they were acting in self-defence?

Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44352
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2026, 07:52:PM »
Ties in with the Milbank 999 call. Police stormed WHF  - found Sheila armed and dangerous - shot her dead - then staged her suicide. I'd like to see the KC's arguments regarding this.

Why would the police take the rifle off Sheila, then shoot her with it?

They would shoot her with there own weapons.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Online Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21097
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2026, 07:58:PM »
Why would the police take the rifle off Sheila, then shoot her with it?

They would shoot her with there own weapons.
She would have to be incapacitated at that point, lying prostate, the rifle Jeremy leaving about her person removed by police, the rifle which was anyway stiff, suddenly and conveniently for Jeremy discharging, necessitating the alleged cover-up by Essex Police.

If you can jump through all those hoops then you're a younger man than I, which to be fair, is becoming easier by the hour.

Offline Aunt Agatha

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 562
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2026, 02:42:PM »
Feeling that Sheila did not kill herself IS what Jeremy originally thought at the very beginning.
He told me so, face to face in the early days.

Jeremy had absolutely no idea what happened on that dreadful night and found it difficult to fully comprehend Sheila’s actions.

Maybe he was still in shock.
We certainly had the most basic of evidence back then.

From an outsiders point of view, based on my early meetings (which was almost weekly for years), based on Jeremy’s views, his feelings, his insight and what was actually happening at the time within the family, I still believe that this was an outsider… it was a prof hit.

It sounds crazy I know…. However my view has not changed since 1990.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48676
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #23 on: Today at 10:23 AM »
 Hi Aunt Agatha---hope you're well.

Most of the gunshots were random apart from two which involved June and one of the twins---one shot each between the eyes ?

Online Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21097
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #24 on: Today at 09:52 PM »
Feeling that Sheila did not kill herself IS what Jeremy originally thought at the very beginning.
He told me so, face to face in the early days.

Jeremy had absolutely no idea what happened on that dreadful night and found it difficult to fully comprehend Sheila’s actions.

Maybe he was still in shock.
We certainly had the most basic of evidence back then.

From an outsiders point of view, based on my early meetings (which was almost weekly for years), based on Jeremy’s views, his feelings, his insight and what was actually happening at the time within the family, I still believe that this was an outsider… it was a prof hit.

It sounds crazy I know…. However my view has not changed since 1990.
Unlikely, as by Jeremy's own words allegedly relayed to him by Nevill the suspects are limited to two.

Online ILB

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13139
Re: Jeremy Bamber believes Sheila did not kill herself?
« Reply #25 on: Today at 10:09 PM »
Unlikely, as by Jeremy's own words allegedly relayed to him by Nevill the suspects are limited to two.

This is the narrative Jeremy is tied too.

The cornerstone of the defence case is he received a call from Nevill saying Shelia had got a gun and gone ape shit.

What clears Shelia implicates him.
If yesterday you hated me. Then today you can not stop the love that binds from me to you. And you to me