Theories are pointless if not submitted to the CCRC

[BarefootDanC]

Several people have theories which have never been submitted to the CCRC, e.g.:

* David's theory that Ann Eaton planted blood in the sound moderator either from Sheila's blood on the carpets (or perhaps menstrual blood?)

* CC's theory that there was never any blood in the sound moderator!

* George Barwood (on Facebook) has some theories which are variations on the CCRC submission.

But these are all pointless if they are not submitted to the CCRC.

[ILB]

It makes interesting discussion.

Not everyone is a willing or wanting advocate for Jeremy Bamber.

[BarefootDanC]

It makes interesting discussion.

Not everyone is a willing or wanting advocate for Jeremy Bamber.

That may be true, but it makes difference to Jeremy and whether or not he may be released.

[ILB]

That may be true, but it makes difference to Jeremy and whether or not he may be released.

Without compelling evidence to substantiate them the entire edifice crumbles.

[BarefootDanC]

Without compelling evidence to substantiate them the entire edifice crumbles.

That's it. Hypothesises without any evidence.

[ILB]

Tend to agree with Lomax that if anything of the nature did exist it was from police incompetence and not a sinister nature.

Not that I don't believe police were not corrupt in the 80s, I'm living testimony but I struggle with the industrial scale that's put out there. Posh farmer boy, middle class soon to be wealthy guy. Had JB been from an estate in Peckham and couldn't read or write I could envision it.

Also don't think Jones, Ainsley and co would be able to pull something off like that.

[Cambridgecutie]

Several people have theories which have never been submitted to the CCRC, e.g.:

* David's theory that Ann Eaton planted blood in the sound moderator either from Sheila's blood on the carpets (or perhaps menstrual blood?)
* CC's theory that there was never any blood in the sound moderator!

* George Barwood (on Facebook) has some theories which are variations on the CCRC submission.

But these are all pointless if they are not submitted to the CCRC.

All the blood stained carpets were removed or cleaned by EP before the relatives had access to WHF.

[Cambridgecutie]

Tend to agree with Lomax that if anything of the nature did exist it was from police incompetence and not a sinister nature.

Not that I don't believe police were not corrupt in the 80s, I'm living testimony but I struggle with the industrial scale that's put out there. Posh farmer boy, middle class soon to be wealthy guy. Had JB been from an estate in Peckham and couldn't read or write I could envision it.

Also don't think Jones, Ainsley and co would be able to pull something off like that.

After reading his books I do not find him a credible source of info at all. 

[BarefootDanC]

All the blood stained carpets were removed or cleaned by EP before the relatives had access to WHF.

Also, in any case, they did incredibly well to think up the idea of getting blood from carpets (or knickers) into a solution and then adding it inside the moderator.

[Cambridgecutie]

Also, in any case, they did incredibly well to think up the idea of getting blood from carpets (or knickers) into a solution and then adding it inside the moderator.

The type of testing undertaken in this case for the enzyme and protein groups, gel electrophoresis,  requires good quality blood of a certain quantity.  Hence none of the blood stained exhibits were able to produce the sort of results the blood supposedly found inside the silencer produced 

David's theory that AE fabricated the silencer is utter nonsense. 

[ILB]

After reading his books I do not find him a credible source of info at all.

JB used to close visits with him " I'll be sharing a bottle of champagne with you next week.

No one can knock JBs optism haha.

[ILB]

That's it. Hypothesises without any evidence.

I would wager that a vast majority of people believe Jeremy gulity from his smiles going to the prison van and innocent because they spoke to him and found him an endearing personality.  Not on this forum. But the general consensus.

People love an underdog story.

[David1819]

Also, in any case, they did incredibly well to think up the idea of getting blood from carpets (or knickers) into a solution and then adding it inside the moderator.

Anthony Pargeter mentioned the rifle having a moderator on the 7th. To which the police asked JB in his statement if he left the rifle out with the silencer on or off (while Ann Eaton was listening to him give this statement) combined with the fact she was then given access to the scene and tasked with cleaning up some of the blood, it would not be hard to work out that victims blood on and in the moderator would seemingly contradict JBs statement.

Ann Eaton was also told where Nevils body was found and Julie had told her about the injuries to Nevils body (after the mortuary visit) hence the scratches under the mantle.

Moreover, if they did incredibly well to think up this idea its child's play to what Jeremy is alleged to have thought up.

[Cambridgecutie]

Anthony Pargeter mentioned the rifle having a moderator on the 7th. To which the police asked JB in his statement if he left the rifle out with the silencer on or off (while Ann Eaton was listening to him give this statement) combined with the fact she was then given access to the scene and tasked with cleaning up some of the blood, it would not be hard to work out that victims blood on and in the moderator would seemingly contradict JBs statement.

Ann Eaton was also told where Nevils body was found and Julie had told her about the injuries to Nevils body (after the mortuary visit) hence the scratches under the mantle.

Moreover, if they did incredibly well to think up this idea its child's play to what Jeremy is alleged to have thought up.

Utter nonsense.

[Cambridgecutie]

Anthony Pargeter mentioned the rifle having a moderator on the 7th. To which the police asked JB in his statement if he left the rifle out with the silencer on or off (while Ann Eaton was listening to him give this statement) combined with the fact she was then given access to the scene and tasked with cleaning up some of the blood, it would not be hard to work out that victims blood on and in the moderator would seemingly contradict JBs statement.

Ann Eaton was also told where Nevils body was found and Julie had told her about the injuries to Nevils body (after the mortuary visit) hence the scratches under the mantle.

Moreover, if they did incredibly well to think up this idea its child's play to what Jeremy is alleged to have thought up.

When and where did AE have access to good quality blood of a certain quantity from SC in order for FSS to secure blood test results for the enzyme and protein groups?  She didn't.

How would a rural Essex farmer ie AE know about the drawback phenomenon?  No one other than those in the forensic science community would have this understanding and even then it would be considered esoteric. 

AE could not possibly have known whether or not EP had already photographed the area the scratches were found.

AE was a farmer and lacked the criminal mindset and forensic know how to contaminate the silencer.  Her crime was to go along with DS Jones' claim that she and the other relatives overlooked the traces he claims he found on picking up the silencer from the Eaton's farmhouse.