PSOR on CC's proposed referral to the CCRC.

[Adam]

He could have rubbed bullets into her hand. So wax and oil went on them. Then cut a couple of nails to give the damage nail look.

Could have ripped her nightdress to support that she had struggled with Nevill.

[ILB]

He could have rubbed bullets into her hand. So wax and oil went on them. Then cut a couple of nails to give the damage nail look.

Could have ripped her nightdress to support that she had struggled with Nevill.

On paper he had a very good scapegoat.

Documented mental health, chaotic life, unwell.

Mental health was a taboo in the 80s.

I think this massively bolstered his confidence.

It would seem shelias inexperience with firearms did not worry him.

[Steve_uk]

Theoretically speaking he could have spared the boys. From his perspective.

It wouldn't have effected his inheritance as they were children and would have gone to Colin in the interim before being allowed to stake a claim for Sheila's share. Which would have probably happened in 97 when they turned 18.

12 years would have passed by then.

He was jealous of them. He told Liz Rimington what "spoiled brats" they were. The contrast to how emotionless he had been raised to the affection lavished on them by his parents was too much for his fragile ego to bear, already damaged by a sense of failure at Gresham's.

As far as the inheritance went it would complicate things for the future as you point out, but he also wanted use of the Maida Vale flat for his courting exploits. He scornfully packed Nicholas and Daniel's possessions into bin bags for Colin to collect, all of it merely refuse in his mind, the detritus necessary to clear before he could finally begin to lead the life he chose.

[Adam]

On paper he had a very good scapegoat.

Documented mental health, chaotic life, unwell.

Mental health was a taboo in the 80s.

I think this massively bolstered his confidence.

It would seem shelias inexperience with firearms did not worry him.

He did not have to shoot Sheila with the silencer. She was shot last.

Back spatter in the rifle barrel would not have been a problem.

He did not have to shoot her twice.

[ILB]

He did not have to shoot Sheila with the silencer. She was shot last.

Back spatter in the rifle barrel would not have been a problem.

He did not have to shoot her twice.

Backspatter is a thing not all experts agree on.

Doubtful the 24 year old Jeremy Bamber even had heard the term until 1986.

[ILB]

He did not have to shoot her twice.

Totally agree with this, and it's what cooked his downfall and is immediately what got DS Jones suspicious.

[David1819]

Don't believe 7.8.85 was stenciled in as D Day by Jeremy.

People can often brag and have fantasies about committing atrocious acts revenge acts for months on ends before finally snapping and doing something.

For me what points to the crime being a spontaneous act if Jeremy Bamber is the murderer. Spontaneous in the sense there was no set date. He finally just snapped.

1) Jeremy's own words to Julie " Ive been thinking all day on the tractor this crime has to happen tonight it's now or never"

2) Sheila's diary entry " I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy"  it's very likely brother and sister had a bust up. Which fuelled Jeremy's resentment even further and hatred for her.

3) Jeremy working in the fields and seeing shelia and the twins lolling around that hot summers day. He is working she is doing fuck all and it riled him.

4) Jeremy not mentioning anything to Julie the weekend before by Julie's own words. ( if he had a pre plan he would have mentioned it)

5) the kitchen farmhouse conversation. While many a guilter believe a placebo by Jeremy about the fostering conversation. It's possible a conversation did happen but it involved something in regards to Jeremy. There was talk about Shelia moving into bourtree and Jeremy moving back to WHF. Jeremy had tastefully furnished the cottage and spent thousands. It would have made him go ape shit.

If you are using Julie as a credible source it's difficult to take the post seriously.

[Adam]

Suspect Sheila's first shot knocked her out. She was still breathing.

It was likely no one would enter WHF for hours.

Bamber had to make a judgement call on whether she would regain conciousness and be able to make a phone call. Or would still be alive when the police entered.

[Adam]

Bit surprised he shot her a second time.

Seems he had done his research and made his decision about where to shoot her. Both shots very close to each other.

So thought he would be confident Sheila would not regain conciousness & would die after the first shot.

[ILB]

If you are using Julie as a credible source it's difficult to take the post seriously.

I don't take Julie seriously.

Just like to look at the case from my position from on the fence. Always have done.

[ILB]

Bit surprised he shot her a second time.

Seems he had done his research and made his decision about where to shoot her. Both shots very close to each other.

So thought he would be confident Sheila would not regain conciousness & would die after the first shot.

The second shot must have been done out of haste.

It's the only explination.

Believe if he had collected his thoughts he wouldn't have shot her twice.

[Adam]

Backspatter is a thing not all experts agree on.

Doubtful the 24 year old Jeremy Bamber even had heard the term until 1986.

He would not have thought he was taking a risk by putting the silencer back in it's box.

After he had to take it off after shooting Sheila. 

[Adam]

The second shot must have been done out of haste.

It's the only explination.

Believe if he had collected his thoughts he wouldn't have shot her twice.

The previous few minutes there had been 24 shots & 2 re loads. So he was in shooting mode.

With everyone else shot multiple times, he may have thought people would not query Sheila's 2 shots.

[Steve_uk]

If you are using Julie as a credible source it's difficult to take the post seriously.

One bows to the David1819 oracle then.

[Adam]

He knew Sheila was unconcious after the first shot. He was there!

He would have realised Sheila would not have regained conciousness during his police interviews. They told him Sheila could not have shot herself a second time.

That is when he suggested Crispy, reflexes & that Nevill may have said 'she' & not 'Sheila'.