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« Reply #225 on: April 01, 2026, 01:21:PM »
Ramblings of a madman.
   So where did these B52’s fly over David?

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« Reply #226 on: April 01, 2026, 01:22:PM »
   In fact Caine's statement doesn't even mention Iranian airspace, only that the "First overland B52 missions" have been launched. Over whose land? Iraq, Saudi Arabia? Doesn't say. He doesn't say much at all really, it all relies on the listener's own inference.

They hit Isfahan with bunker busters, causing a massive 💥. According to Sonar 21, Netenyahu has said Iran is no longer a threat to Israel. Does this infer that the enriched uranium was hit in the Isfahan bombing?
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« Reply #227 on: April 01, 2026, 01:36:PM »
They hit Isfahan with bunker busters, causing a massive 💥. According to Sonar 21, Netenyahu has said Iran is no longer a threat to Israel. Does this infer that the enriched Iranian was hit in the Isfahan bombing?
   They are still using expensive and limited stand off munitions, Roch. The notion of flying freely over Iran is self evidently untrue. I doubt that the US have destroyed/buried the enriched uranium. I suspect that the US/Israel are looking for a way to claim victory and walk away. Iran are far from defeated and have forced retreat from the US. You can be certain that Iran have plenty of AD stored away waiting for the US second phase which will not be coming

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« Reply #228 on: April 01, 2026, 01:42:PM »
   They are still using expensive and limited stand off munitions, Roch. The notion of flying freely over Iran is self evidently untrue. I doubt that the US have destroyed/buried the enriched uranium. I suspect that the US/Israel are looking for a way to claim victory and walk away. Iran are far from defeated and have forced retreat from the US. You can be certain that Iran have plenty of AD stored away waiting for the US second phase which will not be coming

But Iran has claimed it has success hit some US aircraft in the air.  Re bunker busters - they managed to this last year. What makes you think the heavy bombers are not in the air?

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« Reply #229 on: April 01, 2026, 01:44:PM »
  Yes you are naive and susceptible to propaganda.
Well as I was saying, it is mostly Marco Rubio that I have been listening to, gringo!
He seems honest and sincere about the situation in Iran in his press conferences and such!
He doesn't blether any nonsense like Donald!

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« Reply #230 on: April 01, 2026, 01:47:PM »
They hit Isfahan with bunker busters, causing a massive 💥. According to Sonar 21, Netenyahu has said Iran is no longer a threat to Israel. Does this infer that the enriched uranium was hit in the Isfahan bombing?

Trump posted footage of this on his Truth Social.

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« Reply #231 on: April 01, 2026, 01:53:PM »
I have to admit that I am just as naive as Steve, gringo!
I believed everything Marco Rubio was saying about the dangers of nuclear weapons in the hands of a lunatic regime.

You mean like Israel?


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« Reply #232 on: April 01, 2026, 02:15:PM »
But Iran has claimed it has success hit some US aircraft in the air.  Re bunker busters - they managed to this last year. What makes you think the heavy bombers are not in the air?

He lives in a fantasy world.

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« Reply #233 on: April 01, 2026, 02:39:PM »
   So where did these B52’s fly over David?

Let me just get on a quick call with Pete Hegseth and I will get back to you on that. I am sure he will disclose to me exactly when and where  ::)

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« Reply #234 on: April 01, 2026, 02:43:PM »
But Iran has claimed it has success hit some US aircraft in the air.  Re bunker busters - they managed to this last year. What makes you think the heavy bombers are not in the air?
   Read Caine’s statement, Roch. I didn’t say heavy bombers aren’t in the air. I am saying that they are not flying freely over Iran. What makes you think that heavy bombers can fly freely over Iran? Parse what Caine said not what he implies and hopes that you infer. I suspect that destroyed air bases and refuelling planes have forced the US to use long distance bombers to launch stand off munitions such as JASSM’s. The B52’s are flying not as a demonstration of US strength, their hand has been forced because the Iranians have utterly degraded/destroyed their bases and refuellers.

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« Reply #235 on: April 01, 2026, 02:47:PM »
You mean like Israel?
Yes, you already said that, ngb!
Again, I really don't know what to believe about Israel. Some see the people as evil monsters, some as a people who have been victimized for centuries.
In part it seems to date back to the time of Christ with the Jews getting the blame for his death.
Since then they have always been treated with suspicion and blamed for disastrous world events [eg. the great plague of Europe] without any logical foundation.
This thing with money too, for whatever reason, Jews were shunned and persecuted and were banned from owning land or gaining employment of many jobs, hence they took up [were forced??] to take up money lending.
The Jews were even persecuted by the Crusaders because of their denial that Jesus eas the son of God and a false prophet!
In a way, what the Jews claim makes sense anyway, the way they see it,  God [who is outside time and space] could not physically present himself in human form on Earth.
Christians however, believe that Jesus is linked to God in the form of the holy trinity, the father the son and the holy ghost, or something like that anyway[ask Steve]
Anyway, because of their view of christianity the Crusaders persecuted them along with the muslims.
Anyway, the question was, are the Jews/Israel safe to have nuclear weapons, or are they religius nutters like the Iranians?
Well, I believe the Jews do to an extent see themselves as the chosen people who live in the promised land as it were, does that make them lunatics? Well I would say no!
The Jews are a tiny minority in the world, 0.2 percent of the world population I believe.
Do the Jews force Judaism on the world? Again, there is no evidence of this and the Jewish population hasn't grown much for many years [unlike the muslim hordes].
Has Israel been a warmongerer since 1948 and invaded other countries? Well again this is complicated, but on the whole I would say Israel has just been defending the land it was granted, and any land gained by war in the likes of Egypt or the Golan Heights area of Syria were eventually given back, so hardly a state/country hell bent on taking over the region?
I know Israel has taken parts of Lebanon in the mean time again for security reasons and distancing themselves from missile attacks, but again, I presume they will eventually return the land sometime after the conflict is over.
So, on the whole, I would trust the Israelies with nuclear weapons rather than a radical religius country like Iran who maim and kill their own citizens.
Well, thats just my view anyway, ngb!


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« Reply #236 on: April 01, 2026, 02:51:PM »
Let me just get on a quick call with Pete Hegseth and I will get back to you on that. I am sure he will disclose to me exactly when and where  ::)
   You shouldn’t need to do that. There would be pictures, footage and evidence of the B52’s and wherever they visited in Iran, surely. You seem even more unhinged than usual. I suspect that you are beginning to realise that your worldview is crumbling. It is noticeable that you are unable to answer any question put to you.

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« Reply #237 on: April 01, 2026, 05:24:PM »
Yes, you already said that, ngb!
Again, I really don't know what to believe about Israel. Some see the people as evil monsters, some as a people who have been victimized for centuries.
In part it seems to date back to the time of Christ with the Jews getting the blame for his death.
Since then they have always been treated with suspicion and blamed for disastrous world events [eg. the great plague of Europe] without any logical foundation.
This thing with money too, for whatever reason, Jews were shunned and persecuted and were banned from owning land or gaining employment of many jobs, hence they took up [were forced??] to take up money lending.
The Jews were even persecuted by the Crusaders because of their denial that Jesus eas the son of God and a false prophet!
In a way, what the Jews claim makes sense anyway, the way they see it,  God [who is outside time and space] could not physically present himself in human form on Earth.
Christians however, believe that Jesus is linked to God in the form of the holy trinity, the father the son and the holy ghost, or something like that anyway[ask Steve]
Anyway, because of their view of christianity the Crusaders persecuted them along with the muslims.
Anyway, the question was, are the Jews/Israel safe to have nuclear weapons, or are they religius nutters like the Iranians?
Well, I believe the Jews do to an extent see themselves as the chosen people who live in the promised land as it were, does that make them lunatics? Well I would say no!
The Jews are a tiny minority in the world, 0.2 percent of the world population I believe.
Do the Jews force Judaism on the world? Again, there is no evidence of this and the Jewish population hasn't grown much for many years [unlike the muslim hordes].
Has Israel been a warmongerer since 1948 and invaded other countries? Well again this is complicated, but on the whole I would say Israel has just been defending the land it was granted, and any land gained by war in the likes of Egypt or the Golan Heights area of Syria were eventually given back, so hardly a state/country hell bent on taking over the region?
I know Israel has taken parts of Lebanon in the mean time again for security reasons and distancing themselves from missile attacks, but again, I presume they will eventually return the land sometime after the conflict is over.
So, on the whole, I would trust the Israelies with nuclear weapons rather than a radical religius country like Iran who maim and kill their own citizens.
Well, thats just my view anyway, ngb!

There are other factors beyond national boundaries. Blood ties are strong in the region and many of these nation states were set up by the west after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Here are a few. Kurds, Arabs, Berbers, Jordanians, Persians, Palestinians etc etc. This process was also used in Africa where tribes were split between different countries. Whilst not being a major source of all wars they frequently provide an undercurrent to hostilities. Look at the breakup of Yugoslavia. We are where we are and if nations cannot live together in peace such shocks will continue in the future. India Pakistan the lists go on. Armenia Azerbaijan. Our fore fathers have a lot to answer for in the way the past colonisations were distributed.

Despite this there was no good reason to unleash a war against Iran and no evidence to suggest this was necessary. It is illegal and war crimes have been committed

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« Reply #238 on: April 01, 2026, 06:06:PM »
There are other factors beyond national boundaries. Blood ties are strong in the region and many of these nation states were set up by the west after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Here are a few. Kurds, Arabs, Berbers, Jordanians, Persians, Palestinians etc etc. This process was also used in Africa where tribes were split between different countries. Whilst not being a major source of all wars they frequently provide an undercurrent to hostilities. Look at the breakup of Yugoslavia. We are where we are and if nations cannot live together in peace such shocks will continue in the future. India Pakistan the lists go on. Armenia Azerbaijan. Our fore fathers have a lot to answer for in the way the past colonisations were distributed.

Despite this there was no good reason to unleash a war against Iran and no evidence to suggest this was necessary. It is illegal and war crimes have been committed
Well Marco Rubio says its a case of wiping out the current Iranian regime before they can develop nuclear weapons, Bubo! he says it would be impossible to stop them if this was to happen, I mean, there is no doubt that Iran is funding terrorist groups and terrorist attacks all over the world at the moment. Can such a regime be left to develop long range nuclear weapons in future?
Anyway,I saw a good post on Twitter today, someone pointed out that if the Iranian people were against the war why haven't the government re-connected the internet to show this?

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« Reply #239 on: April 01, 2026, 06:43:PM »
   You shouldn’t need to do that. There would be pictures, footage and evidence of the B52’s and wherever they visited in Iran, surely. You seem even more unhinged than usual. I suspect that you are beginning to realise that your worldview is crumbling. It is noticeable that you are unable to answer any question put to you.

Do enlighten me on where I can obtain geolocated photos of iranian airspace at 45,000 feet off the ground.  ::)

What an idiot.