US-Israel Attacks Iran

[David1819]

Trump's economic plan was impose tariffs and hope more companies start manufacturing in America. Creating jobs.

Once that was shut down, he has no back up plan. So will now focus on starting wars.

Would be hoping for a quick win in Iran before the mid terms. That will not happen. He will now be hoping he is not impeached as America are in the middle of a war.

He is a nutter.

[David1819]

Iranian divers inspecting the USS Gerald R. Ford after the opening skirmish.

In any openly declared NATO/Russia war (or China, Iran and others) no aircraft carrier or naval strike group would survive the opening skirmishes.

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Iranian divers inspecting the USS Gerald R. Ford after the opening skirmish.



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   Where are the Carriers, David? What are the Carriers doing? Why aren't they close enough that their aircraft can fly bombing sorties over Tehran? They are using only stand off missiles and are powerless to come any closer. Why is that, David? The US main Naval Base in the region(Bahrain) is getting hammered and the US are powerless to prevent that destruction. As is the case with multiple bases and vital early warning radars across the region. What gives you the idea that they can successfully defend a Carrier group in the days of cheap drones and missiles versus limited and expensive interceptors?
    According to all your previous predictions, the Persian Gulf should already be open with a US Carrier Group nearby maintaining the status quo. Instead they are too far away to launch anything meaningful, their bases on fire and the Gulf closed. The US and the navy know what would happen even if you pretend not to.

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Iranian divers inspecting the USS Gerald R. Ford after the opening skirmish.



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   You can be rest assured that if and when the US Carrier Groups actually join the skirmish, then they will be disabled/sunk. After 9/10 days of the US/Israel 3 day war on Iran, a few questions for you, David.
1.) How long will it take for the US to force the Iranians to re-open the Gulf? (the closure of which you claimed previously the Iranians were incapable of)
2.) US goals in Iran were overthrowing the government and installing a US friendly comprador regime. Do you think they will succeed? and if so, how? or why not?
3.) Iran's goals are to remove the US from the Middle East region. Do you think they will succeed and if so, how? or why not?

    Ponder those questions objectively (particularly 2 & 3). If you are honest then you will conclude that it is much more realistic to see the clear path to 3. Both will they succeed and how they will succeed. US goals are unrealistic and unattainable.

    The distance of the US carriers from the Persian Gulf and Iran also allows the obvious inference that Iranian Air Defence is still largely intact and a threat to US planes. Difficult as it is for you to take in, David, US/Empire will be/is being strategically defeated.
   

[David1819]

Iranian divers inspecting the wreck of the USS Lincoln after the opening skirmish

   As previously stated, NATO are still planning and arming for 20th century wars(Aircraft carriers and air power). All neutralised by modern air defence, missile tech and electronic warfare. In any openly declared NATO/Russia war (or China, Iran and others) no aircraft carrier or naval strike group would survive the opening skirmishes.

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[David1819]

Admiral Brad Cooper from CentCom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMm2RBw5Xi0

[Roch]

It sounds like Iran is going achieve a strategic victory over the US and Israel, at the very least.

[David1819]

It sounds like Iran is going achieve a strategic victory over the US and Israel, at the very least.

What on earth have you been smoking?

[Roch]

What on earth have you been smoking?

I'm not sure what your sources are but Iran is absolutely bossing attacks on Israel and US bases / facilities.  And Israel and the US are absolutely bossing attacks on Iran.

[David1819]

I'm not sure what your sources are but Iran is absolutely bossing attacks on Israel and US bases / facilities.  And Israel and the US are absolutely bossing attacks on Iran.

I get my sources here https://iran.liveuamap.com/

[Roch]

I get my sources here https://iran.liveuamap.com/

Thanks for sharing this. I will use it 👍

[Cambridgecutie]

It sounds like Iran is going achieve a strategic victory over the US and Israel, at the very least.

Do you mean strategic in terms of interfering with oil production/distribution?

[Adam]

The new Iran Supreme Leader has vowed to avenge the deaths of the Iran people & keep the shipping lane closed.

Looks like Trump will need another regime change of people that will do what he wants. But he does not know who.

[Roch]

Do you mean strategic in terms of interfering with oil production/distribution?

That's a big part of the equation.  However, Iran is militarily strong.  It cannot compete with US firepower from the air / sea.  But it's ballistic missile program and strategic planning are advanced. Iran is being damaged. Iran is causing damage.

[ngb1066]

That's a big part of the equation.  However, Iran is militarily strong.  It cannot compete with US firepower from the air / sea.  But it's ballistic missile program and strategic planning are advanced. Iran is being damaged. Iran is causing damage.

I agree Roch.  Much as I am not a fan of the Iranian theocratic system, I really hope they give the USA and Israel a bloody nose.  It is disgraceful that Starmer and the UK government support this criminal activity.