US-Israel Attacks Iran

[gringo]

    Seems that Iran can easily close the Strait of Hormuz, David. Who knew? Your AI (Artificial Idiocy) oracle is just an aggregation of idiocy from multiple publications all using the same dubious source. GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out). The LLM AI models that you seem to believe to be some sort of oracle are all similarly constrained.

[Steve_uk]

     Khamenei was assassinated on the first day, David, along with many others including 165 schoolgirls. Those murders have opened a hornet's nest of consequences that has led to US bases emptying. Bahrain, home of the US fifth fleet which is under constant barrage, on fire and evacuated, is currently having to bring in Gulf "peacekeeping forces" to quell the uprising of the Shia majority against the Western protected Sunni Sheikhs. The assassination of Khamenei is not a victory in any sense and is much more likely to lead to the fall of western vassal states such as Bahrain, UAE, Saudi et al. Iran is filled with protesters demanding vengeance. The gulf states are filled with protesters demanding the ouster of their regimes. US bases are empty because they cannot defend against Iran. Israel cannot defend the constant barrages of Iranian missiles and drones. But they murdered Khamenei and you think that is some sort of victory.
     What is the next move now that Khamenei has been murdered, David? The meme you posted demonstrates only your own vacuousness. It is a constant throughout these threads that you have nothing to add, but add it anyway. Have you got a picture and sarcy comment for the 165 schoolgirls murdered by the same psychopaths. You really ought to remain silent sometimes, David.

One has to ask oneself why the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps situated their base adjacent to the school.

The real sentiment amongst Iran's women: https://youtu.be/3r-Nsf5j1Uk

[David1819]

[Roch]

That was always going to be an easy target for the US. There would be nowhere safe for the Iranian navy. Sitting ducks.  Iran recently sent over a missile that evaded 10-11 interceptors, before hitting its target. 

[ngb1066]

     Khamenei was assassinated on the first day, David, along with many others including 165 schoolgirls. Those murders have opened a hornet's nest of consequences that has led to US bases emptying. Bahrain, home of the US fifth fleet which is under constant barrage, on fire and evacuated, is currently having to bring in Gulf "peacekeeping forces" to quell the uprising of the Shia majority against the Western protected Sunni Sheikhs. The assassination of Khamenei is not a victory in any sense and is much more likely to lead to the fall of western vassal states such as Bahrain, UAE, Saudi et al. Iran is filled with protesters demanding vengeance. The gulf states are filled with protesters demanding the ouster of their regimes. US bases are empty because they cannot defend against Iran. Israel cannot defend the constant barrages of Iranian missiles and drones. But they murdered Khamenei and you think that is some sort of victory.
     What is the next move now that Khamenei has been murdered, David? The meme you posted demonstrates only your own vacuousness. It is a constant throughout these threads that you have nothing to add, but add it anyway. Have you got a picture and sarcy comment for the 165 schoolgirls murdered by the same psychopaths. You really ought to remain silent sometimes, David.

Well said gringo.

We are in very dangerous times.

[David1819]

     Khamenei was assassinated on the first day, David, along with many others including 165 schoolgirls. Those murders have opened a hornet's nest of consequences that has led to US bases emptying. Bahrain, home of the US fifth fleet which is under constant barrage, on fire and evacuated, is currently having to bring in Gulf "peacekeeping forces" to quell the uprising of the Shia majority against the Western protected Sunni Sheikhs. The assassination of Khamenei is not a victory in any sense and is much more likely to lead to the fall of western vassal states such as Bahrain, UAE, Saudi et al. Iran is filled with protesters demanding vengeance. The gulf states are filled with protesters demanding the ouster of their regimes. US bases are empty because they cannot defend against Iran. Israel cannot defend the constant barrages of Iranian missiles and drones. But they murdered Khamenei and you think that is some sort of victory.
     What is the next move now that Khamenei has been murdered, David? The meme you posted demonstrates only your own vacuousness. It is a constant throughout these threads that you have nothing to add, but add it anyway. Have you got a picture and sarcy comment for the 165 schoolgirls murdered by the same psychopaths. You really ought to remain silent sometimes, David.

Good riddance. Khamenei lead a government that recently massacred thousands of his own people who wanted an end to his ancient theocracy but never mind. Your knight in shining armour that was to deliver Holocaust 2 is no more, you are understandably upset and trying to make it a positive.

[Steve_uk]

Good riddance. Khamenei lead a government that recently massacred thousands of his own people who wanted an end to his ancient theocracy but never mind. Your knight in shining armour that was to deliver Holocaust 2 is no more, you are understandably upset and trying to make it a positive.

Is there a role for Reza Pahlavi? https://youtu.be/jDfvAMK4Q0A

[ngb1066]

Is there a role for Reza Pahlavi? https://youtu.be/jDfvAMK4Q0A

None whatsoever. 

[gringo]

Good riddance. Khamenei lead a government that recently massacred thousands of his own people who wanted an end to his ancient theocracy but never mind. Your knight in shining armour that was to deliver Holocaust 2 is no more, you are understandably upset and trying to make it a positive.

    Your belief in evidence free western propaganda whilst ignoring hard evidence of your genocidal heroes actual massacring of civilians is par for the course with you. Your failure to recognise war propaganda after all this time shows how little you learn. Anyway, what's the news on Hormuz, David? Or the US 5th Fleet? How many functioning manned bases do the US have left in the Middle East? Trump now claiming that the US will escort tankers through Hormuz, although he made sure to add a couple of caveats ("if necessary" and "as soon as possible"). Hmmm! I would guess  that it will be "possible" when the Iranians say so and as "soon as they do", well it will no longer be "necessary"
      Difficult as it is for you to conceive, The "Mighty West" is facing defeat along with all the consequences that come with that.
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[gringo]

Well said gringo.

We are in very dangerous times.

   With the most corrupt, inept and compromised political class in memory. This applies across the entire "collective west". UK, US, EU, NATO and their colony in Palestine.

[gringo]

One has to ask oneself why the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps situated their base adjacent to the school.

The real sentiment amongst Iran's women: https://youtu.be/3r-Nsf5j1Uk

    You may ask yourself that. More pertinent is why was US/Israel bombing a girl's school deliberately. Your willingness to act as an apologist for barbarism does not reflect well on you. 165 schoolgirls were murdered, Steve.
     RAF Akrotiri, the UK base in Cyprus was attacked with an Iranian drone recently. Using your "logic", would it be ok for the Iranians to also target the school on the base (for 5-11 year olds) during school hours, killing 165 children? Would you "be asking oneself why the RAF situated their base adjacent to the school"? Of course you wouldn't, Steve. So why are you asking now?

[ngb1066]

   With the most corrupt, inept and compromised political class in memory. This applies across the entire "collective west". UK, US, EU, NATO and their colony in Palestine.

You have to remember gringo, they are all operating under the "international rules based order".  The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

[David1819]

    Your failure to recognise war propaganda after all this time shows how little you learn.     I

I'm the one who learns little and falls for propaganda? Let take a stroll through the ever expanding gallery of the predictions and wisdom of Gringo.

Everyone who matters understands the price of attacking Iran is way too high. You either don’t or choose not to but there will be no direct attack on Iran.

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   As previously stated, NATO are still planning and arming for 20th century wars(Aircraft carriers and air power). All neutralised by modern air defence, missile tech and electronic warfare. In any openly declared NATO/Russia war (or China, Iran and others) no aircraft carrier or naval strike group would survive the opening skirmishes.

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. US are powerless to intervene. The development of accurate and un-interceptable hypersonic missiles has made their isolated bases all over the Middle East indefensible.

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   Israel couldn’t strike Iranian launch sites. How will they do this? You do know the distance between Iran and Israel, I take it. Iran’s sites are buried underground and in mountains. Israel have no ground based missile capability that could reach Iran, never mind take out their launch sites. Israeli planes can’t reach Iran without refuelling, airspace closed off to them.

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Turkey's current position is extremely fragile and leads inevitably to the Syrian govt. recovering the entirety of the north of the country. Their terrorist proxies will be utterly defeated when the inevitable attack comes.
 

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     Syria will, as Assad has promised, recover every inch of Syrian soil from the illegal occupiers, including the Golan Heights.

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   This is only scratching the surface of the disarray in the supposed Ukrainian leadership. It will soon only exist only as a land-locked rump state, at best. Odessa will not be left to Ukrainian governance.
   

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    Just search Bella 1 on X/Twitter. This is a direct challenge to the sanctions regime. Will US risk direct confrontation with Russia? Or will the sanctions regime buckle as smaller states, such as Panama where Bella 1 was registered, start registering their ships under the Russian flag to bypass and mock Western sanctions? The US face a stark choice. Blink and the sanctions regime is a busted flush. Enforce their illegal under the UN Charter sanctions and put themselves in a direct confrontation with Russia.

     Decisions, decisions!!

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[Roch]

According to Hegseth it will be game over now, due to control of Iranian airspace and the use of much heavier munitions. How does someone become a Hegseth?  He is a deeply arrogant and unpleasant individual, full of bluster and venom.

[ngb1066]

According to Hegseth it will be game over now, due to control of Iranian airspace and the use of much heavier munitions. How does someone become a Hegseth?  He is a deeply arrogant and unpleasant individual, full of bluster and venom.

He is vile, but typical of this US administration.  I cannot predict what the end results of this criminal lunacy  will be, but it will not be good and we will all suffer.