US-Israel Attacks Iran

[snow66!]

Hello Snow. Thanks I see you have checked this all out. Good question - what went wrong between Iran and Israel, and from when?

We shall have to dig deeper, Roch!

[David1819]

Hello Snow. Thanks I see you have checked this all out. Good question - what went wrong between Iran and Israel, and from when?

It all depends on the political landscape.

Although the Iranians publicly deny it. When Saddam Hussein was around, Israel and Iran were clandestine allies with Israel being a major supplier of military equipment to Iran.

Remember when the whole region was united against ISIS? Russia, Assad, The US and Iran all allies with a common enemy?

Iranian and Israeli relations depend largely if their is some kind of boogeyman standing between them.

Needless to say its a very volatile region.

[snow66!]

We shall have to dig deeper, Roch!

OK, this is what it says, Roch....
Israel and Iran first fell out in 1979 following the Islamic[Iranian] revolution.
Before that the two countries had been close allies for decades, Iran was even among the first middle east countries to recognize Israel as a state in 1950.
The two countries maintained strong ties in the likes of trade, oil, intelligence, military cooperation, and technology, they had shared interests and were aligned with western powers during the cold war.
Israel even had an embassy in Tehran and there was direct flights between the two countries.
After the 1979 revolution in Iran all official diplomatic, economic and other ties with Israel were broken almost immediately. The Israeli embassy was closed in Tehran and handed over to the PLO [Palestinian Liberation Organization].
Iran immediately became anti-Israel and anti Zionist, describing Israel as an outpost of western imperialism.
And then in the mid 80's Iran started supporting Hezbollah in the Lebanon, etc,.
So, thats what it says, Roch!
Why the absolute turn around after the 1979 revolution???
Is the clue in the official description, 'ISLAMIC REVOLUTION'??
Anyway, as far as I can see nothing changed in Israel in 1979???
Seems to me the radical Theocratic regime which were voted in have certainly been to blame for most of the trouble since?
Seems clear to me, Iran waged war[for mainly religious reasons??? Partly so??] on Israel with terrorist groups within Israels neighbouring countries.
What do you think, Roch? Am I wrong?

[snow66!]

Lets look at it this way, if Israel and Iran had generally the same interests and outlook regarding technology., etc, why was there such a monumental shift after the change of regime in 1979?
Something that caused Iran to call for Israel to be wiped from the face of the earth basically!
Surely the shift must have been down to religion, with the new regime being a radical Theocracy which took its guidance from the Koran, which obviously calls for the 'eradication' of every other religion bar Islam??
Again, the 1979 regime change is known as the 'ISLAMIC REVOLUTION'!!!
You certainly cant put the troubles between Israel and Iran down to oil anyway, can you?

[David1819]

Looks like the director of the FBI is under serious pressure

"Kash Patel’s colleagues are alarmed by what they describe as erratic behavior and excessive drinking—conduct that could cost him his job, Sarah Fitzpatrick reports.

She spoke with more than two dozen people who described Patel’s tenure as a management failure and his personal behavior as a national-security vulnerability. “They said the problems with his conduct go well beyond what has been previously known, and include both conspicuous inebriation and unexplained absences,” Fitzpatrick writes. “His behavior has often alarmed officials at the FBI and Department of Justice, even as he won support from the White House for his eager participation in Trump’s effort to turn federal law enforcement against the president’s perceived political enemies.”

Several officials said that Patel’s drinking has been a recurring source of concern across the government. They said he is known to drink to the point of obvious intoxication while in the presence of White House and other administration staff. Early in his tenure, meetings and briefings had to be rescheduled for later in the day as a result of his alcohol-fueled nights, six current and former officials and others familiar with Patel’s schedule said.

On multiple occasions in the past year, members of his security detail had difficulty waking Patel because he was seemingly intoxicated, according to information supplied to Justice Department and White House officials. A request for “breaching equipment”—normally used by SWAT and hostage-rescue teams to quickly gain entry into buildings—was made last year because Patel had been unreachable behind locked doors, according to multiple people familiar with the request.

The FBI responded with a statement, attributed to Patel: “Print it, all false, I’ll see you in court - bring your checkbook.”

“Some of Patel’s colleagues at the FBI worry that his personal behavior has become a threat to public safety,” Fitzpatrick continues. “Current and former officials told me that they have long worried about what would happen in the event of a domestic terrorist attack while Patel is in office, and they said that their apprehension has increased significantly in the weeks since Trump launched his military campaign against Iran. ‘That’s what keeps me up at night,’ one official told me.”"

[Roch]

The latest Iran Hegseth video is very amusing.