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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2026, 02:03:PM »
Every little helps.
It sure does, Steve! And there's often one or two reduced price ones too of course!

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2026, 02:31:PM »
1. Perished or Compressed Door Seals.

2. Insulation Slump Inside the Cooker

3. Faulty Thermostat or Control System (Electric AGAs especially)

Why don’t we turn our AGA off in the summer? Well there are two reasons:

1. We have found that when we turn our AGA off and then turn it back on there is a very good chance that one of the heating elements in it is going to blow. As the call out charge and fixing cost comes to £150 it is best for us to keep it on.

2. We don’t have a separate cooker, we only have the AGA and a standard microwave.


I can only say that, other than it not heating to full power -which only ever happens (sometimes) when we get a new oil delivery- we get it serviced every year. Considering it's long life, circa 1930s, and a conversion, it's doing pretty well.

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2026, 03:13:PM »

I can only say that, other than it not heating to full power -which only ever happens (sometimes) when we get a new oil delivery- we get it serviced every year. Considering it's long life, circa 1930s, and a conversion, it's doing pretty well.

We are not reviewing your Aga or your maintenance schedule. We are discussing the Bamber Aga. You need to accept that the Aga produced the burns. If they are burns as I believe, there is no other in depth, professional evidence which provides a reasoned argument that they were made by another means.

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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2026, 03:19:PM »
1. Perished or Compressed Door Seals.

2. Insulation Slump Inside the Cooker

3. Faulty Thermostat or Control System (Electric AGAs especially)

Why don’t we turn our AGA off in the summer? Well there are two reasons:

1. We have found that when we turn our AGA off and then turn it back on there is a very good chance that one of the heating elements in it is going to blow. As the call out charge and fixing cost comes to £150 it is best for us to keep it on.

2. We don’t have a separate cooker, we only have the AGA and a standard microwave.
Unfortunately, the only people who could answer any of your questions about the Bambers Aga are the Eatons, Bubo!
Aint that the way, those who are determined to keep JB locked up are in charge of the crime scene, and I dont suppose they will answer any questions about any maintenaince to the Aga!

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2026, 03:20:PM »
Looking at the photos in the archive I would say that Nevill had relatively broad shoulders!
Funnily enough, in the last year or so I have taken to feeding the birds in the garden on a regular daily basis, you know how it is, once you feed them they always return and you dont want to disappoint them!
So, I buy about four loafs every time I visit the supermarket now!
BUT, I am always looking for the cheapest wholemeal bread I can find to keep the cost down, and low and behold I came across Tesco's budget brown bread which is called 'H.W. Nevill's', its only 55pence per loaf!
Is it available in your local Tesco too people??

I am sure your intentions are good but feeding bread to birds is considered harmful:

The RSPCA advises avoiding feeding bread to birds because, while not directly toxic, it is an "empty filler" that can lead to severe health and environmental problems. Bread lacks the essential nutrients, protein, and fats that birds need to thrive
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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2026, 03:23:PM »
We are not reviewing your Aga or your maintenance schedule. We are discussing the Bamber Aga. You need to accept that the Aga produced the burns. If they are burns as I believe, there is no other in depth, professional evidence which provides a reasoned argument that they were made by another means.

Why?  On what basis?   
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« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2026, 03:28:PM »
When is it going to sink in that the marks to NB's back are incapable of assisting JB with the CCRC/CoA?

Whatever, whenever, however, whoever...all totally irrelevant. 

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« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2026, 03:52:PM »
We are not reviewing your Aga or your maintenance schedule. We are discussing the Bamber Aga. You need to accept that the Aga produced the burns. If they are burns as I believe, there is no other in depth, professional evidence which provides a reasoned argument that they were made by another means.

At the time what did you think of the CCRC ground that insisted the marks were from a rifle without a silencer?
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« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2026, 04:08:PM »
I am sure your intentions are good but feeding bread to birds is considered harmful:

The RSPCA advises avoiding feeding bread to birds because, while not directly toxic, it is an "empty filler" that can lead to severe health and environmental problems. Bread lacks the essential nutrients, protein, and fats that birds need to thrive

Even brown bread, Cutie? I never feed them white!

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« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2026, 04:13:PM »
Even brown bread, Cutie? I never feed them white!

Yes all bread!  Here's what you could feed them:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/wildlife/birds/feeding

I don't feed them.  Its best they forage imo.
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« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2026, 04:17:PM »
Even brown bread, Cutie? I never feed them white!

All processed bread (in fact any bread imo) is disgusting stuff for animals and humans.
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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2026, 04:30:PM »
Yes all bread!  Here's what you could feed them:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/wildlife/birds/feeding

I don't feed them.  Its best they forage imo.
Yes, having looked at articles on the web and that one you just posted, I concede that I am doing the birds more harm than good, Cutie, and may have to acquire healthier options for them to digest.
BUT!! this will no doubt cost considerably more than supplying them with 'H.W Nevill's' brown bread!
For some reason it is mostly crows or jackdaws, and plump pidgeons we get, as well as some small sparrows, the odd blackbird and some starlings now and again! Oh yes, a magpie from time to time too and of course a robin at this time of year!

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« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2026, 04:32:PM »
At the time what did you think of the CCRC ground that insisted the marks were from a rifle without a silencer?
To be honest, I was sceptical. If JB was the perpetrator he would just have shot NB where he lay and I found his positioning weird, especially how his head ended up in the scuttle. Using a heated rifle and moving the body was wasting precious time if he was on a tight schedule as some claim.

I doubted a deranged SC would do this in a very close formation of marks.

Neither SC or JB could have moved NB on their own. Deliberate contamination of a crime scene is in itself a crime.

I considered other implements usually found with an Aga or in a kitchen. None fitted the bill. The  hot water drain tap was initially my preferred source. But suggested other parts of the Aga could be responsible.

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2026, 04:38:PM »
All processed bread (in fact any bread imo) is disgusting stuff for animals and humans.
Mmmm, interesting!

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« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2026, 04:43:PM »
Yes, having looked at articles on the web and that one you just posted, I concede that I am doing the birds more harm than good, Cutie, and may have to acquire healthier options for them to digest.
BUT!! this will no doubt cost considerably more than supplying them with 'H.W Nevill's' brown bread!
For some reason it is mostly crows or jackdaws, and plump pidgeons we get, as well as some small sparrows, the odd blackbird and some starlings now and again! Oh yes, a magpie from time to time too and of course a robin at this time of year!

Perhaps quality is better than quantity!  If you really feel the need to feed I would go for better quality food less often.  Otherwise I would look to plant things in the garden that provide natural food sources.

How do you know the 'plump pigeons' are not pigging out on your H.W. Nevill's bread?  Do you want to attract pigeons?  Most consider them a nuisance. 
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