What documentation is being withheld which could benefit Jeremy?

[Jonathan]

The only reason I can think of is to prevent ESDA testing on the original log?

so you're suggesting someone's lying? Just him or are there others? And why would they lie?

[Adam]

The only reason I can think of is to prevent ESDA testing on the original log?

Why would Bamber's defence do an ESDA test on West's original log in 1985?

The 'Nevill called Chelmsford Police instead of 999' claim was not until 2010.

[Hardy Boy]

The only reason I can think of is to prevent ESDA testing on the original log?

It was routine in the 80s to hand copying a statement anyway, and if a statement needed correcting it would be rewritten,  so in short, rewriting logs was normal, practice in the 80s and not an attempt to defeat anything. 

[Steve_uk]

You know full well Adam and have taken part in posts in all this issues.

This forum has almost become a waste of time which is why I don't post so much these days.

Please explain to our new member that West hand copied his log instead of using a photocopier - Why?

Rob, it's a shame you don't feel you want to post much these days. Why not take a break from the Forum and come back refreshed? The Forum always has been subject to ups and downs.

[Adam]

If there are undisclosed documents, it seems there is nothing that would be a game changer.

I don't believe negs of released photos or West's original log (if not already in circulation) would help Bamber.

[Adam]

Supporters say they want to see Julie's draft WS's 

Assume they were binned on the 8th September 1985.

Authors, journalists & script writers need to make several drafts before submission. Unrealistic to expect Julie to get a 23 page WS 100%  correct at the first draft.

[BarefootDanC]

Supporters say they want to see Julie's draft WS's 

Assume they were binned on the 8th September 1985.

Authors, journalists & script writers need to make several drafts before submission. Unrealistic to expect Julie to get a 23 page WS 100%  correct at the first draft.

Correct. This part of their hypothesis that Julie was coached and/or coerced by the police

[Hardy Boy]

Correct. This part of their hypothesis that Julie was coached and/or coerced by the police

I have to disagree with you Dan, I certainly think without the Police input Julie wouldn’t have been a witness.  She had so much baggage it must have been a mine field for the police to Navigate, her past cheque book fraud, her drug dealing and her knowledge beforehand and reluctance to come forward after, certainly caused problems for the Police.

[Jonathan]

Correct. This part of their hypothesis that Julie was coached and/or coerced by the police

Coerce or coax Julie into showing how incompetent the first 4 weeks of the investigation were and subjecting Essex police to scrutiny and humiliation

[Hardy Boy]

Coerce or coax Julie into showing how incompetent the first 4 weeks of the investigation were and subjecting Essex police to scrutiny and humiliation

Ah yes, I forgot,   the alleged police operational cover-up that required Stan to climb through WHF just to conveniently deposit his DNA on the silencer.

[David1819]

Ah yes, I forgot,   the alleged police operational cover-up that required Stan to climb through WHF just to conveniently deposit his DNA on the silencer.

lmao

[Cambridgecutie]

Ah yes, I forgot,   the alleged police operational cover-up that required Stan to climb through WHF just to conveniently deposit his DNA on the silencer. 

I very much doubt DS Jones had any awareness of DNA evidence in 1985 since it wasn't even envisaged then!  Given FSS didn't even take any precautionary measures to prevent contamination of exhibits, why on earth would anyone think EP would? 

487. The evidence reveals that the form of DNA testing carried out was Low Copy Number (LCN) DNA profiling. This form of DNA profiling is designated to increase the sensitivity of earlier types of DNA profiling so that, in theory, only a few cells are required for successful analysis. As a result mixed DNA profiles, (i.e. profiles containing DNA originating from more than one individual) can be anticipated. LCN DNA profiling tests do not provide any information about the type of body fluid tested or when it was deposited on the item. Because of the sensitivity of the test, the possibility of contamination must be taken into account. Rigorous procedures have been drawn up to eliminate so far as possible any contamination in the gathering and examination of items from crime scenes. Because DNA testing was not available at the time of these killings (let alone LCN DNA testing) such procedures were not in place at the time when these items were gathered and first tested. In addition, at the trial no precautions would have been considered necessary to protect the integrity of the exhibits because it was not then anticipated that further testing would take place.

[Cambridgecutie]

lmao

Are you still wedded to your bizarre theory about AE contaminating the silencer with water in a bucket containing SC's menstrual stained knickers left to soak?  Now that really is lmao.

[Hardy Boy]

I very much doubt DS Jones had any awareness of DNA evidence in 1985 since it wasn't even envisaged then!  Given FSS didn't even take any precautionary measures to prevent contamination of exhibits, why on earth would anyone think EP would? 

487. The evidence reveals that the form of DNA testing carried out was Low Copy Number (LCN) DNA profiling. This form of DNA profiling is designated to increase the sensitivity of earlier types of DNA profiling so that, in theory, only a few cells are required for successful analysis. As a result mixed DNA profiles, (i.e. profiles containing DNA originating from more than one individual) can be anticipated. LCN DNA profiling tests do not provide any information about the type of body fluid tested or when it was deposited on the item. Because of the sensitivity of the test, the possibility of contamination must be taken into account. Rigorous procedures have been drawn up to eliminate so far as possible any contamination in the gathering and examination of items from crime scenes. Because DNA testing was not available at the time of these killings (let alone LCN DNA testing) such procedures were not in place at the time when these items were gathered and first tested. In addition, at the trial no precautions would have been considered necessary to protect the integrity of the exhibits because it was not then anticipated that further testing would take place.

Fine, Call it blood instead of DNA if it helps,  the fantasy story you came up with remains the same.

[Cambridgecutie]

Fine, Call it blood instead of DNA if it helps,  the fantasy story you came up with remains the same.

Blood is biological material.  DNA is a test to identify biological material in terms of type and origin.  How are they in any way similar?