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Offline Rob_

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2025, 09:30:PM »
Yes, we have to admit that 'vague' sums up the Milbank evidence perfectly, Adam!

It's understandable though Snow it was 40 years ago. What I find unforgivable is the CCRC sent EP round to interview Milbank.

I look at quite a few cases involving the Innocence project in the US, the difference between them and the CCRC is massive they leave no stone unturned! In one case with six dodgy witnesses they personally went round and coaxed the truth out of them.
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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2025, 09:49:PM »
It's understandable though Snow it was 40 years ago. What I find unforgivable is the CCRC sent EP round to interview Milbank.

I look at quite a few cases involving the Innocence project in the US, the difference between them and the CCRC is massive they leave no stone unturned! In one case with six dodgy witnesses they personally went round and coaxed the truth out of them.
I just dont think Heidi got enough details out of Milbank regarding what occurred at 6.09, Rob.
She should have at least asked him about what Burrell and Jean Rowe put in their statements which seems to contradict his own recollections.

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2025, 09:54:PM »
I just dont think Heidi got enough details out of Milbank regarding what occurred at 6.09, Rob.
She should have at least asked him about what Burrell and Jean Rowe put in their statements which seems to contradict his own recollections.
Not great was it snow.

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2025, 10:06:PM »
I just dont think Heidi got enough details out of Milbank regarding what occurred at 6.09, Rob.
She should have at least asked him about what Burrell and Jean Rowe put in their statements which seems to contradict his own recollections.

Maybe Snow? I am more interested in how the call came in, Milbank thought it was a 999 call but was this just the operator connecting WHF via the emergency line? Or was it Sheila or someone dialing 999 but saying nothing?

Surely if it was just the operator JR would have spoke to Milbank telling him what was happening?

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2025, 10:10:PM »
Maybe Snow? I am more interested in how the call came in, Milbank thought it was a 999 call but was this just the operator connecting WHF via the emergency line? Or was it Sheila or someone dialing 999 but saying nothing?

Surely if it was just the operator JR would have spoke to Milbank telling him what was happening?
So she dialled at 5.47 am and then she dialled at 6.09 am is that what your saying?  Which one is it?
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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2025, 10:22:PM »
Not great was it snow.
Well to put it mildly, the interview was hardly up to a Jeremy Paxman type level, HB.
Heidi should have had a list of questions in front of her, as well as the statements of anyone connected to the 6.09 'happening'.
Asking Milbank if he received a call from someone inside WHF at 6.09 and him replying 'yes' hardly cuts the mustard.
Talk about going off half-cocked!

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2025, 10:26:PM »
Well to put it mildly, the interview was hardly up to a Jeremy Paxman type level, HB.
Heidi should have had a list of questions in front of her, as well as the statements of anyone connected to the 6.09 'happening'.
Asking Milbank if he received a call from someone inside WHF at 6.09 and him replying 'yes' hardly cuts the mustard.
Talk about going off half-cocked!

But I would have thought Milbank would have said something like "No I never received a call but the operator patched me through to WHF" or something like that?

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2025, 10:27:PM »
Well to put it mildly, the interview was hardly up to a Jeremy Paxman type level, HB.
Heidi should have had a list of questions in front of her, as well as the statements of anyone connected to the 6.09 'happening'.
Asking Milbank if he received a call from someone inside WHF at 6.09 and him replying 'yes' hardly cuts the mustard.
Talk about going off half-cocked!
I agree Snow, you can blame the CT for this as well because they have all these information as we have got only more, maybe they didn’t want Heidi to see this so she just ran with what she was given.
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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2025, 10:45:PM »
But I would have thought Milbank would have said something like "No I never received a call but the operator patched me through to WHF" or something like that?
Milbank seems to be saying that a phone rang and he picked it up, Rob, well thats the way I understand him anyway, where as Burrell says the link was set up and only 'then' was Milbank instructed to monitor it!
Wonder if Burrell is still alive? Maybe he's JBs last hope now?

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2025, 10:48:PM »
Milbank seems to be saying that a phone rang and he picked it up, Rob, well thats the way I understand him anyway, where as Burrell says the link was set up and only 'then' was Milbank instructed to monitor it!
Wonder if Burrell is still alive? Maybe he's JBs last hope now?
More like  Bob Hope snow,.

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2025, 11:31:PM »
More like  Bob Hope snow,.
Oh well, we will get part 6 of Heidi's series tomorrow, HB!

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2025, 11:40:PM »
Oh well, we will get part 6 of Heidi's series tomorrow, HB!
Ive got the Pop corn ready Snow, I like a good finale.

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2025, 11:45:PM »
Ive got the Pop corn ready Snow, I like a good finale.
Well, here's hoping!

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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2025, 12:08:AM »
Surprised Milbank was so social after getting a call out of the blue from Heidi. He didn"t even ask 'how did you get this number?".
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Re: Time breakdown and sources regarding 6.09am.
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2025, 05:55:AM »
Surprised Milbank was so social after getting a call out of the blue from Heidi. He didn"t even ask 'how did you get this number?".

Obviously it was pre arranged but at the same time he had the option of refusing to speak to journalists if he so wished.
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