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Nick Milbank confirms that Jeremy Bamber is innocent
« on: November 20, 2025, 11:47:AM »
Blood relatives Episode 5
999 call at 0609
Heidi Blake (HB) introduced herself to Nick Milbank NM by saying, "Basically, I'm just wondering whether you might be willing to have a chat with me about it and just make sure I'm not completely barking up the wrong tree with the stuff I'm looking at"
NM "Yeah, to be honest, yes, I was, I was on the telephone but it was back in the 80's, my recollection of it. I mean, I'd taken millions and millions of phone calls since then and to be honest, in those days it was just another, just another phone call.
HB - comment Just another phone call, he said.
Nick Milbank (NM)
“From what I remember it was a case of someone ringing 999 and me answering it and then I just was hearing background noises and then police entering the build(sic) or room. I don’t think there was any actual conversation, but I really don’t remember much about it at all to be honest”
Heidi Blake (HB) “Were you in the Control Room and picked up a 999?”
NM “Yes”
“Yeah, yeah, in the central Control Room in Chelmsford”
“I do dispatching most of the time but on that occasion I was call taking and, but, yeah and obviously it came from the 999 system”
HB “So a call came in, and it was from the farmhouse itself?”
NM “Yeah”
NM “If you get a phone call where it’s technically an abandoned call because people either aren’t – it’s technically an abandoned call because people either aren’t speaking or there’s someone who’s in fear or danger or, whatever, our policy is to stay on the phone with them until the police arrive. And then as the police officers would get there, they’d pick up the phone and say, yeah, we’re here now. And so I could then hang up the phone call and go straight to the next 999 call.
HB “Right, OK, yeah, that makes sense”
NM “And so I say I just sat there with the phone open to see if anyone did say anything or I heard anything”.
HB “And you could hear sort of movement in the background?”
NM” As far as I can remember, there was, yes, a movement or voices in the background. I’m, not sure I actually spoke to anybody”

HB. “So Nick Millbank was saying not only did someone dial 999 from inside the Manor that morning before police entered the property, but when he answered, he heard apparent signs of life inside, movements, maybe even speech.

NM “Who actually made the phone call, I don’t know”

HB "This conversation was becoming more and more surreal because Nick Milbank did not seem to realise the gravity of what he was telling me”

HB “I’m just trying to get my head round some of this new stuff and that it does seem like if it’s true that because, you know, that the way it all went down was apparently, you know, Jeremy claims there was a call from his dad to him at 3.00 in the morning saying come round, your sister’s gone berserk with a gun and he went round to the farmhouse and they got there at about 3:48 in the morning and then from that point on, he was stood outside with the police and the police didn’t enter until 7:30 am. So if there was a call from inside the farmhouse, it sort of doesn’t quite make sense that, you know, that would have happened. And because that would indicate that someone was alive and they’re basically, you know, they’re all dead by the time”.
NM “Well, obviously, yeah, yeah”

HB “Well obviously, Nick Milbank said, someone was alive in there”

The police hadn’t entered the property until 7:30 am, so Milbank had been listening in for an hour and 21 minutes before the bodies were found. And he’d heard noises that might have been crucial clues to what was going on in there”.

HB “And so did it sound like, because I think there was meant to be a bit of a struggle in the kitchen. Did it sound like a commotion or did it just sound like, you know,”

NM” Didn’t sound like no, it was just movement, you know, movement really, I don’t know. I can’t remember but I’ll be guessing sort of either a door opening, closing or a chair being moved or, you know, there was some noise or some sort of movement and, then all of a sudden, you know, there were police, sounds of police. I think someone picked up the phone and said it’s OK, we’re in now, well we’re here now, whatever. And I said, oh that’s fine and put the phone down. I’m guessing it was a police officer that picked up the phone. And so obviously there was no longer the need to leave the 999 call open”.

HB “Who could have made this call? Nevill, June and the twins had all been shot in the head at close range. If someone was alive inside the house after the police turned up, it could only have been Sheila, who was found dead inside the locked Manor holding the murder weapon.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2025, 02:04:PM »
Blood relatives Episode 5
999 call at 0609
Heidi Blake (HB) introduced herself to Nick Milbank NM by saying, "Basically, I'm just wondering whether you might be willing to have a chat with me about it and just make sure I'm not completely barking up the wrong tree with the stuff I'm looking at"
NM "Yeah, to be honest, yes, I was, I was on the telephone but it was back in the 80's, my recollection of it. I mean, I'd taken millions and millions of phone calls since then and to be honest, in those days it was just another, just another phone call.
HB - comment Just another phone call, he said.
Nick Milbank (NM)
“From what I remember it was a case of someone ringing 999 and me answering it and then I just was hearing background noises and then police entering the build(sic) or room. I don’t think there was any actual conversation, but I really don’t remember much about it at all to be honest”
Heidi Blake (HB) “Were you in the Control Room and picked up a 999?”
NM “Yes”
“Yeah, yeah, in the central Control Room in Chelmsford”
“I do dispatching most of the time but on that occasion I was call taking and, but, yeah and obviously it came from the 999 system”
HB “So a call came in, and it was from the farmhouse itself?”
NM “Yeah”
NM “If you get a phone call where it’s technically an abandoned call because people either aren’t – it’s technically an abandoned call because people either aren’t speaking or there’s someone who’s in fear or danger or, whatever, our policy is to stay on the phone with them until the police arrive. And then as the police officers would get there, they’d pick up the phone and say, yeah, we’re here now. And so I could then hang up the phone call and go straight to the next 999 call.
HB “Right, OK, yeah, that makes sense”
NM “And so I say I just sat there with the phone open to see if anyone did say anything or I heard anything”.
HB “And you could hear sort of movement in the background?”
NM” As far as I can remember, there was, yes, a movement or voices in the background. I’m, not sure I actually spoke to anybody”

HB. “So Nick Millbank was saying not only did someone dial 999 from inside the Manor that morning before police entered the property, but when he answered, he heard apparent signs of life inside, movements, maybe even speech.

NM “Who actually made the phone call, I don’t know”

HB "This conversation was becoming more and more surreal because Nick Milbank did not seem to realise the gravity of what he was telling me”

HB “I’m just trying to get my head round some of this new stuff and that it does seem like if it’s true that because, you know, that the way it all went down was apparently, you know, Jeremy claims there was a call from his dad to him at 3.00 in the morning saying come round, your sister’s gone berserk with a gun and he went round to the farmhouse and they got there at about 3:48 in the morning and then from that point on, he was stood outside with the police and the police didn’t enter until 7:30 am. So if there was a call from inside the farmhouse, it sort of doesn’t quite make sense that, you know, that would have happened. And because that would indicate that someone was alive and they’re basically, you know, they’re all dead by the time”.
NM “Well, obviously, yeah, yeah”

HB “Well obviously, Nick Milbank said, someone was alive in there”

The police hadn’t entered the property until 7:30 am, so Milbank had been listening in for an hour and 21 minutes before the bodies were found. And he’d heard noises that might have been crucial clues to what was going on in there”.

HB “And so did it sound like, because I think there was meant to be a bit of a struggle in the kitchen. Did it sound like a commotion or did it just sound like, you know,”

NM” Didn’t sound like no, it was just movement, you know, movement really, I don’t know. I can’t remember but I’ll be guessing sort of either a door opening, closing or a chair being moved or, you know, there was some noise or some sort of movement and, then all of a sudden, you know, there were police, sounds of police. I think someone picked up the phone and said it’s OK, we’re in now, well we’re here now, whatever. And I said, oh that’s fine and put the phone down. I’m guessing it was a police officer that picked up the phone. And so obviously there was no longer the need to leave the 999 call open”.

HB “Who could have made this call? Nevill, June and the twins had all been shot in the head at close range. If someone was alive inside the house after the police turned up, it could only have been Sheila, who was found dead inside the locked Manor holding the murder weapon.
Thanks Bill.
Can you help clarify a few questions we have been discussing regarding the Milbank call?
Firstly, can you set the scene, was Milbank sitting in the police station when a phone rang at 6.09 and he picked it up? And when he picked up the '999' call, how did he know that it was from WHF?
Indeed, was Milbank briefed about the siege at WHF when he arrived for duty?
I suppose the only thing we need to know is, could the 999 call have been made by the operator linking up WHF with Chelmsford police station? That is, was it possible for the operator to actually make a 999 call directly to the police station?
The log certainly seems to suggest this, - 'operator/ link up / 6.09'-  does it not?
Yet, in Jean Rowes statement she says that she couldn't connect to the  'emergency line', is this refering to the 999 emergency line that Milbank answered?
In other words, is there proof that the 999 call could only have been made from inside WHF and not by the operator? No doubt the CCRC will need to know all this too, before they can make a decision!
And what about the log showing the phone inside WHF engaged at 5.47, what does JB and the CT make of that?
Anyway, can you help clarify things at all, Bill?

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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2025, 02:30:PM »
Thanks Bill.
Can you help clarify a few questions we have been discussing regarding the Milbank call?
Firstly, can you set the scene, was Milbank sitting in the police station when a phone rang at 6.09 and he picked it up? And when he picked up the '999' call, how did he know that it was from WHF?
Indeed, was Milbank briefed about the siege at WHF when he arrived for duty?
I suppose the only thing we need to know is, could the 999 call have been made by the operator linking up WHF with Chelmsford police station? That is, was it possible for the operator to actually make a 999 call directly to the police station?
The log certainly seems to suggest this, - 'operator/ link up / 6.09'-  does it not?
Yet, in Jean Rowes statement she says that she couldn't connect to the  'emergency line', is this refering to the 999 emergency line that Milbank answered?
In other words, is there proof that the 999 call could only have been made from inside WHF and not by the operator? No doubt the CCRC will need to know all this too, before they can make a decision!
And what about the log showing the phone inside WHF engaged at 5.47, what does JB and the CT make of that?
Anyway, can you help clarify things at all, Bill?

The crux of the matter is, if you strip away the many possibilities, is that the log proves there was someone alive in WHF who was trying to make a call of some kind.

All of the Milbank issue/affair and its and other interpretations of the written evidence does not negate the fact that someone must have been alive at 05.47am

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2025, 02:48:PM »
Thanks Bill.
Can you help clarify a few questions we have been discussing regarding the Milbank call?
Firstly, can you set the scene, was Milbank sitting in the police station when a phone rang at 6.09 and he picked it up? And when he picked up the '999' call, how did he know that it was from WHF?
Milbank was at Police Headquarters Information Room, not Chelmsford Police Station, where PC West remained. I believe that the BT operator put 999 calls through to the police and I assume that she informed Milbank where the caller was.

Indeed, was Milbank briefed about the siege at WHF when he arrived for duty? I assume so.

I suppose the only thing we need to know is, could the 999 call have been made by the operator linking up WHF with Chelmsford police station? That is, was it possible for the operator to actually make a 999 call directly to the police station?
The log certainly seems to suggest this, - 'operator/ link up / 6.09'-  does it not?
Yet, in Jean Rowes statement she says that she couldn't connect to the  'emergency line', is this refering to the 999 emergency line that Milbank answered? I don't know.

In other words, is there proof that the 999 call could only have been made from inside WHF and not by the operator? No doubt the CCRC will need to know all this too, before they can make a decision!
And what about the log showing the phone inside WHF engaged at 5.47, what does JB and the CT make of that? I don't know, I don't have any contact with either.
Anyway, can you help clarify things at all, Bill?

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2025, 04:07:PM »

OK, thanks, Bill! Maybe Heidi will disclose a few more details too regarding the call in Episode 6.

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2025, 04:26:PM »
Maybe a combination of Nevill calling Chelmsford Police, the police moving him from the aga & Sheila dialling 999 at 6.09am will make 2026 Jeremy's year.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2025, 04:27:PM »
The crux of the matter is, if you strip away the many possibilities, is that the log proves there was someone alive in WHF who was trying to make a call of some kind.

All of the Milbank issue/affair and its and other interpretations of the written evidence does not negate the fact that someone must have been alive at 05.47am
Yes, its hard to see how ' phone engaged' can mean anything other than someone actually using it at 5.47, Bubo?

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2025, 04:34:PM »
'From what I remember it was a case of someone ringing 999 and me answering it and then I just was hearing background noises and then police entering the build(sic) or room. I don’t think there was any actual conversation, but I really don’t remember much about it at all to be honest'.

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Seems his memory is not very good. Which is fine. He was elderly and it was 40 years ago.

He didn't take a call. He started monitoring the open line inside WHF. As Burrel's 1985 WS says.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2025, 04:34:PM »
Maybe a combination of Nevill calling Chelmsford Police, the police moving him from the aga & Sheila dialling 999 at 6.09am will make 2026 Jeremy's year.
Well who knows what 2026 will bring to Jeremy, Adam!
Nothing exactly slam dunk by the look of things at the moment!

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2025, 04:41:PM »
Millbank says 'he can't remember' several times.

He does not say he went to EP with this information in 1985 & they turned him away.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2025, 04:47:PM »
'From what I remember it was a case of someone ringing 999 and me answering it and then I just was hearing background noises and then police entering the build(sic) or room. I don’t think there was any actual conversation, but I really don’t remember much about it at all to be honest'.

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Seems his memory is not very good. Which is fine. He was elderly and it was 40 years ago.

He didn't take a call. He started monitoring the open line inside WHF. As Burrel's 1985 WS says.
Well, either it was Sheila making a 999 call or it was the operator making the link from the farm to the police at 6.09, how this can be proven one way or the other is beyond me? Not enough details at the moment!
Maybe the CT should investigate the  'phone engaged' at 5.47 log like Bubo says? Like finding out who wrote it and exactly what it means?

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2025, 04:48:PM »
'I think someone picked up the phone and said it’s OK, we’re in now, well we’re here now, whatever. And I said, oh that’s fine and put the phone down'.

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Sounds like the police knew the line was being monitored. As said by Burrel. They told Milbank they were now inside WHF.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2025, 04:52:PM »
Well, either it was Sheila making a 999 call or it was the operator making the link from the farm to the police at 6.09, how this can be proven one way or the other is beyond me? Not enough details at the moment!
Maybe the CT should investigate the  'phone engaged' at 5.47 log like Bubo says? Like finding out who wrote it and exactly what it means?

The phone was found off the hook. So engaged before 6.09am. .

The line was then opened and monitored by Millbank from 6.09am.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2025, 04:55:PM »
Millbank taking a 999 call at 6.09am.

The caller not saying anything & not hanging up.

Millbank staying on the call until 7.30am. Until the police told him they were inside.

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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2025, 05:14:PM »
The phone was found off the hook. So engaged.

The line was then opened and monitored by Millbank from 6.09am.

Please explain the above. There is a difference between 'off the hook' and 'engaged' status which only happens (a) When a call is ended and the hand set is not replaced. There is a howler noise which can be heard and seen (by a light) by the exchange operator and the noise is also played via the handset to the source. It is a time based trigger (b) The system also notifies the operator when the status changes to engaged.

By the time the TFG entered and Milbank had hung up the call the status would be 'off the hook.
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