Was Sheila under-medicated?

[BarefootDanC]

Was Sheila under-medicated?

I keep being told she was!

[Jane]

Not according to the autopsy/toxicology report.  Who do we believe? Supporters' wishful thinking, or pathologists' stated facts?

[David1819]

Sheila had 15 ng/mL of haloperidol in her blood at the time of her death.



According to a 1992 study "Haloperidol Blood Levels and Clinical Effects" They consider Haloperidol blood levels as follows -

low (2 to 13 ng/mL), medium (13.1 to 24 ng/mL), or high (24.1 to 35 ng/mL).

According to a 1980s study, heavy sedation is associated with levels in excess of 50ng/mL

[Rob_]

Not according to the autopsy/toxicology report.  Who do we believe? Supporters' wishful thinking, or pathologists' stated facts?

Guilter's wishful thinking did you mean Jane?

The person I spoke to who has PS and is doing well said halving the dose of a person with PS would be reckless.

He tells me of many cases of armed police being called to hospital when he was in their, I don't think people realize how rough it can get when someone with PS kicks off. Freddie had to call Nevil for help when Sheila let go, he was scared for his safety and she was unarmed at the time.

If she was a helpless lamb to the slaughter as Adam claims what was FA scared of?

[Jane]

Guilter's wishful thinking did you mean Jane?

The person I spoke to who has PS and is doing well said halving the dose of a person with PS would be reckless.

He tells me of many cases of armed police being called to hospital when he was in their, I don't think people realize how rough it can get when someone with PS kicks off. Freddie had to call Nevil for help when Sheila let go, he was scared for his safety and she was unarmed at the time.

If she was a helpless lamb to the slaughter as Adam claims what was FA scared of?

Do you know, I'm sick to death of hearing how poor Freddie was "scared for his life"! Did she touch him? NO! Did she touch him? NO! Was she armed? YES! With a hairbrush, no less! She seems to have believed/may have believed? that she needed to be punished because she was hitting herself with it.

Hospitals are full of those whose frustrations are at boiling point. I don't imagine they're all uneducated PS.

[Adam]

Do you know, I'm sick to death of hearing how poor Freddie was "scared for his life"! Did she touch him? NO! Did she touch him? NO! Was she armed? YES! With a hairbrush, no less! She seems to have believed/may have believed? that she needed to be punished because she was hitting herself with it.

Hospitals are full of those whose frustrations are at boiling point. I don't imagine they're all uneducated PS.

When was this?

If it was before Sheila went to hospital long term & started receiving Haldoperiodal, it is not really relevant. 

Her Haldoperiodal had been reduced as it was probably making her bedbound. All reports leading up to the massacre confirm she was still very drowsy, weak & un cordinated.

[Rob_]

Do you know, I'm sick to death of hearing how poor Freddie was "scared for his life"! Did she touch him? NO! Did she touch him? NO! Was she armed? YES! With a hairbrush, no less! She seems to have believed/may have believed? that she needed to be punished because she was hitting herself with it.

Hospitals are full of those whose frustrations are at boiling point. I don't imagine they're all uneducated PS.

So why was Freddie scared! A slim petite female armed with a hairbrush? What would he have done had she been waving a rifle around!

[Rob_]

When was this?

If it was before Sheila went to hospital long term & started receiving Haldoperiodal, it is not really relevant. 

Her Haldoperiodal had been reduced as it was probably making her bedbound. All reports leading up to the massacre confirm she was still very drowsy, weak & un cordinated.

You know very well when this was Adam, why do you waste everyones time!

[Adam]

So why was Freddie scared! A slim petite female armed with a hairbrush? What would he have done had she been waving a rifle around!

Striking herself. Hitting the wall.

Sounds like it was before she was hospitalised & put onto Haldoperiodal.

A big leap to her shooting her children & parents while they slept. Months or years later. 

[Rob_]

Striking herself. Hitting the wall.

Sounds like it was before she was hospitalised & put onto Haldoperiodal.

A big leap to her shooting her children & parents while they slept. Months or years later.

It was after her first hospital visit if I remember correctly.

[Adam]

You know very well when this was Adam, why do you waste everyones time!

Please give me the date.

If you don't want to,  let me know so I don't keep asking you.

[Jane]

So why was Freddie scared! A slim petite female armed with a hairbrush? What would he have done had she been waving a rifle around!

I'm inclined to say he was a wimp! However, in fairness, she wasn't his responsibility. I guess he was between a rock and a hard place. As to your last question? How on earth would I know? Any answer would be speculative.

[Rob_]

Please give me the date.

If you don't want to,  let me know so I don't keep asking you.

I don't want to go and look the actual date up about something you already know Adam and have posted about in the past.

It was just before her second stay in hospital.

[ILB]

Striking herself. Hitting the wall.

Steadily losing it.

[Steve_uk]

Please give me the date.

If you don't want to,  let me know so I don't keep asking you.

First admission to St. Andrew's: 4 August 1983

Second admission: 2 March 1985