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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2025, 10:35:PM »
I believe the Doc maker has posted extracts from your post, HB, he is also frustrated by the New Yorkers handling of the Milbank interview!
There's people like the Doc Maker who work hard on the behalf of Jeremy Bamber Snow, what your seeing is the difference between selfless and selfishness and self serving,  the follow through by the New Yorker has let Jeremy down in my opinion.

Bill and Roch have been quick to criticise the CCRC on this, I agree about independent interview of Millbank and not Essex Police, but I cannot fault them on rejecting something they have been refused access to.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2025, 10:57:PM »
There's people like the Doc Maker who work hard on the behalf of Jeremy Bamber Snow, what your seeing is the difference between selfishness and self serving,  the follow through by the New Yorker has let Jeremy down in my opinion.

Bill and Roch have been quick to criticise the CCRC on this, I agree about independent interview of Millbank and not Essex Police, but I cannot fault them on rejecting something they have been refused access to.
Seems the interview was a phone call between Heidi Blake and Milbank carried out on English soil!
Does Heidi work for the New Yorker? If not, how did the tape recording end up in the USA?

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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2025, 07:12:AM »
Seems the interview was a phone call between Heidi Blake and Milbank carried out on English soil!
Does Heidi work for the New Yorker? If not, how did the tape recording end up in the USA?
I don’t know a lot about her Snow,  I just listened to the first 5 mins of episode 5.  I listened to the opening episode of 6 for 5 mins, Phil Walker is interviewed, he feels a connection with Bamber because he was adopted about the same time through the Church, he seems a nice bloke and I think he’s genuinely trying his hardest to help Bamber.

You hear Bamber talk to Phil and Bamber seems really excited by the Millbank interview,  I did feel sorry for Bamber to be honest, I think he  was let down, I could be wrong, but putting it in a Podcast and not giving it as evidence to the CCRC seems a big mistake.

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2025, 09:39:AM »
Seems the interview was a phone call between Heidi Blake and Milbank carried out on English soil!
Does Heidi work for the New Yorker? If not, how did the tape recording end up in the USA?

Having been fed information from the Campaign Team prior, she would have  travelled to England for the interviews.

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2025, 12:50:PM »
Having been fed information from the Campaign Team prior, she would have  travelled to England for the interviews.
I see, so is Heidi an English woman who lives in the USA working for the New Yorker then, Dan?

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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2025, 12:58:PM »
Seems the interview was a phone call between Heidi Blake and Milbank carried out on English soil!
Does Heidi work for the New Yorker? If not, how did the tape recording end up in the USA?
The new Yorker is an American Magazine Snow, it was based on New York City Cultural life, I think it ventured out into investigative Journalism later in the 90s or later in the 2000?  I’ve not read too much but they did a piece on Lucy Letby, and I think it got banned in this Country. I think the age of the internet changed a lot of things in the News and Journalistic industry Snow.

There’s been several Miscarriage of justice cases that the Journalistic investigation industry took off with in the USA, namely making a murderer then you had the staircase and the West Memphis three,  looks like the New Yorker is tapping into the UK with Letby and Bamber. 

I think Heidi lives in London Snow, but works for the New Yorker, she visited Phil Walker at his home on the South Coast somewhere.  You don’t have to live in New York to work for the New Yorker Snow, everything is done through the internet now days anyway,  a lot of these writers will use AI as well for research


The Trouble with Podcasts, they’re easily edited, your not seeing the person and when listening to the Audio of the phone call you don’t hear it in its entirety, so they cut it off and move it on when ever it suits if that makes sense.  That’s why it never went to the CCRC in my opinion. 

The BBC are a classic example (I’m not saying the New Yorker did anything like this) the Panarama team spliced two different clips of Trumps Speech together to make it look something else.

Anyway hope this helps Snow 👍

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2025, 01:00:PM »
I see, so is Heidi an English woman who lives in the USA working for the New Yorker then, Dan?
Yes Snow, she worked for several News Papers in this Country first Snow.  I don’t know if she lives in the USA without checking, I thought she lived in London, could be wrong, I’ll check.

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2025, 01:01:PM »
Yes Snow, she worked for several News Papers in this Country first Snow.  I don’t know if she lives in the USA without checking, I thought she lived in London, could be wrong, I’ll check.
Unless she has moved Snow …. About The Author
Heidi Blake is a multi-award-winning investigative journalist. She was assistant editor of The Sunday Times, attached to the Insight team, until spring 2015 when she became BuzzFeed’s UK investigations editor. She lives in south-east London.

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2025, 01:03:PM »
The new Yorker is an American Magazine Snow, it was based on New York City Cultural life, I think it ventured out into investigative Journalism later in the 90s or later in the 2000?  I’ve not read too much but they did a piece on Lucy Letby, and I think it got banned in this Country. I think the age of the internet changed a lot of things in the News and Journalistic industry Snow.

There’s been several Miscarriage of justice cases that the Journalistic investigation industry took off with in the USA, namely making a murderer then you had the staircase and the West Memphis three,  looks like the New Yorker is tapping into the UK with Letby and Bamber. 

I think Heidi lives in London Snow, but works for the New Yorker, she visited Phil Walker at his home on the South Coast somewhere.  You don’t have to live in New York to work for the New Yorker Snow, everything is done through the internet now days anyway,  a lot of these writers will use AI as well for research


The Trouble with Podcasts, they’re easily edited, your not seeing the person and when listening to the Audio of the phone call you don’t hear it in its entirety, so they cut it off and move it on when ever it suits if that makes sense.  That’s why it never went to the CCRC in my opinion. 

The BBC are a classic example (I’m not saying the New Yorker did anything like this) the Panarama team spliced two different clips of Trumps Speech together to make it look something else.

Anyway hope this helps Snow 👍
Yes, that all makes sense, HB.
Never the less, I would still like to hear the Milbank interview, just to see if it holds any weight at all.

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2025, 01:28:PM »
Unless she has moved Snow …. About The Author
Heidi Blake is a multi-award-winning investigative journalist. She was assistant editor of The Sunday Times, attached to the Insight team, until spring 2015 when she became BuzzFeed’s UK investigations editor. She lives in south-east London.
OK, thanks, HB!

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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2025, 03:32:PM »
The new Yorker is an American Magazine Snow, it was based on New York City Cultural life, I think it ventured out into investigative Journalism later in the 90s or later in the 2000?  I’ve not read too much but they did a piece on Lucy Letby, and I think it got banned in this Country. I think the age of the internet changed a lot of things in the News and Journalistic industry Snow.

There’s been several Miscarriage of justice cases that the Journalistic investigation industry took off with in the USA, namely making a murderer then you had the staircase and the West Memphis three,  looks like the New Yorker is tapping into the UK with Letby and Bamber. 

I think Heidi lives in London Snow, but works for the New Yorker, she visited Phil Walker at his home on the South Coast somewhere.  You don’t have to live in New York to work for the New Yorker Snow, everything is done through the internet now days anyway,  a lot of these writers will use AI as well for research


The Trouble with Podcasts, they’re easily edited, your not seeing the person and when listening to the Audio of the phone call you don’t hear it in its entirety, so they cut it off and move it on when ever it suits if that makes sense.  That’s why it never went to the CCRC in my opinion. 

The BBC are a classic example (I’m not saying the New Yorker did anything like this) the Panarama team spliced two different clips of Trumps Speech together to make it look something else.

Anyway hope this helps Snow 👍

Making a murderer is fiction its not investigative Journalism.

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2025, 04:45:PM »
Making a murderer is fiction its not investigative Journalism.
It was done through John Ferak, The main investigative journalist associated with the Steven Avery case, which is the subject of Making a Murderer, is John Ferak.

Award-winning John Ferak Applies Twenty-Year Investigative Journalism Career To His True Crime Book And Feature Writing

I thought fiction means they were invented by the Author, this is a true story, I agree the actual story did have misleading, but the Characters are real and the event happened.


 Making a Murderer is a true-crime documentary, not fiction, which tells the story of Steven Avery, a man convicted of murder after being wrongfully imprisoned for a previous crime. The series is a real-life investigation into his case and that of his nephew, Brendan Dassey. While some viewers may find the narrative compelling enough to feel like fiction, it is based on actual events and legal proceedings.


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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2025, 05:48:PM »
I don’t know a lot about her Snow,  I just listened to the first 5 mins of episode 5.  I listened to the opening episode of 6 for 5 mins, Phil Walker is interviewed, he feels a connection with Bamber because he was adopted about the same time through the Church, he seems a nice bloke and I think he’s genuinely trying his hardest to help Bamber.

You hear Bamber talk to Phil and Bamber seems really excited by the Millbank interview,  I did feel sorry for Bamber to be honest, I think he  was let down, I could be wrong, but putting it in a Podcast and not giving it as evidence to the CCRC seems a big mistake.
She seems rather a pushy person to me. She must have walked up the private road Pages Lane to access   White House Farm. I would have told her to clear off.