Re: Manchester synagogue attack

[Hardy Boy]

And conveniently he was shot dead so he can never face trial.

He was shot dead when a officer had to make that decision in a  split second to shoot him, he was wearing what he thought was a suicide vest, the officer made the correct call and should be commended for his action.

[Steve_uk]

the law of the land says your allowed to peacefuly protest

Yes, and that's why the march wasn't banned. But of course there is a contingent bent on hate. Why do you think some people tore down posters of the hostages taken on October 7 2023?

[Steve_uk]

He was shot dead when a officer had to make that decision in a  split second to shoot him, he was wearing what he thought was a suicide vest, the officer made the correct call and should be commended for his action.

Yes, and he will have to live with that decision for the rest of his life. What a lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread.

[nugnug]

It's disrespectful at this time when people are mourning their dead, whatever their religion. Of course there's hatred involved by some. Islam is a nasty religion.

how is it disrespectull  there protest has nothing to do with the event isreal and jews are not the same thing there will be a lot of jews at that protest

[Hardy Boy]

the law of the land says your allowed to peacefuly protest

I agree, but 442 today we’re holding up placards supporting a terrorists organisation according to the Law of the Land in this Country.

[Steve_uk]

how is it disrespectull  there protest has nothing to do with the event isreal and jews are not the same thing there will be a lot of jews at that protest

They could have postponed it at least as a mark of respect. Didn't they also demonstrate on Remembrance Sunday? Many demonstrators have neither sense of decorum nor bond with Britain's history and traditions.

[ngb1066]

I'm surprised to say the least that as a retired barrister you do not advocate adhering to the law of the land.

If law is manifestly unjust it is right to oppose it.  I applaud the courage of those risking arrest.  It is in the interests of all of us that they defy this dreadful law passed by this appalling government.

[ngb1066]

how is it disrespectull  there protest has nothing to do with the event isreal and jews are not the same thing there will be a lot of jews at that protest

That is absolutely right nugnug. 

[ngb1066]

I agree, but 442 today we’re holding up placards supporting a terrorists organisation according to the Law of the Land in this Country.

But it is not a terrorist organisation and the law relating to this needs to be challenged and changed. 

[ngb1066]

They could have postponed it at least as a mark of respect. Didn't they also demonstrate on Remembrance Sunday? Many demonstrators have neither sense of decorum nor bond with Britain's history and traditions.

Postponing would not have shown respect to the many tens of thousands of recent victims of Israeli war crimes.  We owe it to them to continue demonstrating on their behalf.  Many Jews agree. 

[Steve_uk]

But it is not a terrorist organisation and the law relating to this needs to be challenged and changed.

They could hold up a placard with "I support Palestine" and not be arrested. The fact that they have chosen a banner depicting their support for Palestine Action suggests to me the ulterior motive of causing trouble.

[Steve_uk]

Postponing would not have shown respect to the many tens of thousands of recent victims of Israeli war crimes.  We owe it to them to continue demonstrating on their behalf.  Many Jews agree.

Well, I hope the diaspora Jews composing part of the 16 million faced with over 2 billion Muslims can see the writing on the wall, to quote the book of Daniel 5:5-29.

[ngb1066]

Well, I hope the diaspora Jews composing part of the 16 million faced with over 2 billion Muslims can see the writing on the wall, to quote the book of Daniel 5:5-29.

They are not "faced with" 2 billion Muslims, any more than we are "faced with" 16 million Jews.
 

[Steve_uk]

They are not "faced with" 2 billion Muslims, any more than we are "faced with" 16 million Jews.

Have you seen the map of modern-day Israel lately, ngb1066? Truncated by Gaza and the West Bank and attacked by eight sets of enemy states? How do you think they have fought off enemies since 1948?

[gringo]

They could hold up a placard with "I support Palestine" and not be arrested. The fact that they have chosen a banner depicting their support for Palestine Action suggests to me the ulterior motive of causing trouble.

    Palestine Action are not regarded as a terror group by right thinking people and as already stated by ngb, it is our duty to oppose unjust laws. It is perfectly possible to oppose all that Palestine Action stand for but designating them a terrorist organisation opens all activist/protest groups open to the same designation. It is tyrannical and something only a police state would do.