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Offline gringo

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ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« on: August 03, 2025, 10:56:PM »
     Watching now and started off promisingly. It is nothing new but presents the issues with this case very well. This case will not go away and needs at least a retrial for the Justice System to retain any public confidence and credibility.

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Re: ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2025, 11:13:PM »
     The so called "expert evidence" presented by Dewi Evans is so discredited at this point that it is doubtful that the CPS and Cheshire Police would be able to present any credible "evidence". Too many real experts have exposed Evans as a charlatan.

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Re: ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2025, 02:26:PM »
     Link for those who haven't seen it,

https://www.itv.com/watch/lucy-letby-beyond-reasonable-doubt/10a6860a0001B/10a6860a0001

      When a retrial is ordered, which seems inevitable, the prosecution will be unable to present a case.

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Re: ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2025, 04:24:PM »
Thank you Gringo. I wonder how long Lucy Letby will be locked up for
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2025, 07:58:PM »
Thank you Gringo. I wonder how long Lucy Letby will be locked up for
    I doubt this will be as long running as other MOJ’s, Jackie. The pressure being applied is from voices that can’t be ignored. Steve still attempting to police threads, I see. The link had already been posted, Steve, and I know that it is part of your inexplicable attempt to police having only one Lucy Letby thread and childishly refusing to post in any other thread about LL as you have previously stated. Which is a good enough reason by itself to have other LL threads.

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Re: ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2025, 08:38:PM »
    I doubt this will be as long running as other MOJ’s, Jackie. The pressure being applied is from voices that can’t be ignored. Steve still attempting to police threads, I see. The link had already been posted, Steve, and I know that it is part of your inexplicable attempt to police having only one Lucy Letby thread and childishly refusing to post in any other thread about LL as you have previously stated. Which is a good enough reason by itself to have other LL threads.
Yes, but there's no need to sign in and create an account on mine.

As for two threads, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

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Re: ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2025, 11:06:PM »
    I doubt this will be as long running as other MOJ’s, Jackie. The pressure being applied is from voices that can’t be ignored. Steve still attempting to police threads, I see. The link had already been posted, Steve, and I know that it is part of your inexplicable attempt to police having only one Lucy Letby thread and childishly refusing to post in any other thread about LL as you have previously stated. Which is a good enough reason by itself to have other LL threads.

Considering the documentary wasn’t long it highlighted the main problems with this conviction. There has been a brilliant response on X twitter
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: ITV Lucy Letby documentary
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2025, 11:06:PM »
Considering the documentary wasn’t long it highlighted the main problems with this conviction. There has been a brilliant response on X twitter
     The BBC Panorama also received lots of response on X/Twitter. Unfortunately for the BBC and the dimwitted duo of Moritz/Coffey it highlighted the main problems with the documentary rather than the conviction and has already had to be edited. Inadvertently they also highlighted one of the main problems with the conviction by their use of dodgy stats(which were done by someone "who understands this data") when talking about possible new charges from Liverpool Women's Hospital. The "somebody who understands this data", remains anonymous and in a twist that nobody saw coming ::) turns out to not understand this data. Perhaps this anonymous, numerically challenged mate of Jonathon Coffey is the same person who created the infamous "shift chart". Certainly they have similar understanding of the data. :-[
     In contrast to this the documentary on ITV had actual named statisticians demonstrating in layman's terms the problems with the presented statistics used to convict Lucy Letby. It is indicative of how far Panorama, a so called flagship programme of the state broadcaster, has fallen. Making such bold claims on a platform such as BBC Panorama should require multiple levels of confirmation and then be presented by named individuals who have "shown their working". The opinions of an unnamed mate of the dim presenter should not be aired by a serious documentary maker and certainly not on the state broadcaster. That the gruesome twosome also have a book to flog which they shamelessly plugged in their "documentary" also makes them unsuitable to be presenting the programme.
     Unfortunately for the BBC and Moritz/Coffey, but fortunately for everyone else who care and understand the need for standards and accuracy, their offering has been roundly panned forcing the BBC to edit the documentary and unintentionally draw even more attention to the erroneous workings of not just "Coffey's mate" but whoever devised the shift chart used to convict in the first place.