Article about recent decision

[Hardy Boy]

Yes, but as I said, Dan, Nevill didn't know whether it was an emergency or not until he went upstairs!
JB had little information from his dad either, he dithered about phoning the police at all! When he did he tried to keep it local, with police who might know the Bambers.
Your mind doesn't work right in a criris, you panic and in hindsight make wrong decisions!

Sister going crazy with a Gun, his father sounded Terrified, line cut off,  come over at 3.00am in the morning, your having a laugh Snow,  it was enough in any one’s mind to think it was an emergency and required a 999 call.  Would you dither if your Dad rang you and said your sisters going Crazy with a gun.

[snow66!]

Sister going crazy with a Gun, his father sounded Terrified, line cut off,  come over at 3.00am in the morning, your having a laugh Snow,  it was enough in any one’s mind to think it was an emergency and required a 999 call.  Would you dither if your Dad rang you and said your sisters going Crazy with a gun.

Personally, I think I would have driven straight to the farm without calling anyone, HB!

[Hardy Boy]

Personally, I think I would have driven straight to the farm without calling anyone, HB!

Well he certainly didn’t, he spent Ten minutes looking the local police station up and five minutes on hold,  but before that he rang his girlfriend.  Ten minutes to look a police station number up when just ten seconds puts you through to 999,  and people say, what difference would it make,  posters are having a laugh when they try to justify this Snow, sometimes you have to call it what it is………Bullshit.


Sisters going CRAZY with a gun, his Father sounded TERRIFIED, PLEASE COME OVER……………is it alright if I phone a friend first.

[Hardy Boy]

Can anyone explain why he needed to keep climbing through the windows to get inside WHF,  why would he keep trying different windows in the last six months prior to his families death?

[Adam]

Can anyone explain why he needed to keep climbing through the windows to get inside WHF,  why would he keep trying different windows in the last six months prior to his families death?

He worked there & had his own bedroom there. So strange he didn't have a key.

Maybe Nevill & June noticed things were going missing inside WHF.

[Hardy Boy]

He worked there & had his own bedroom there. So strange he didn't have a key.

Maybe Nevill & June noticed things were going missing inside WHF.

It is strange he didn’t have a key, your right, but he didn’t need one.

[Jane]

Well, at least its a full guilty Sheila scenario, Jane! Which is more than the CT has given, as far as I can see!

Well Snow, have you ever considered it possible that the CT aren't entirely convinced of his innocence?

[Hardy Boy]

It is strange he didn’t have a key, your right, but he didn’t need one.

There is no reason why he had to keep climbing through windows to get inside WHF,  other than, he was perfecting his entry and Exit. 

[Hardy Boy]

There is no reason why he had to keep climbing through windows to get inside WHF,  other than, he was perfecting his entry and Exit.

There were 2 keys, one key father kept, the other key was used to lock the door when going out and left in the coal shed………………… and on the previous old door he had his own key.

So why did he need to keep climbing through the windows to get in,  even if his parents went out?

[Hardy Boy]

I often wonder if he toyed with the idea of waiting till the morning.

If the workers couldn't get in touch will Nevill they will not attempt to go in the farmhouse and assume Nevill is preoccupied. However they would be alarmed by the fact that Nevills cars and vans would still be on the premises.

Either way the workers will wait till Jeremy arrives.

They have then the option of kicking the door down or phoning the police.

The trouble with this situation is Jeremy can't heavily insinuate the guilt as Shelia, it would be more a " somethings not right here " scenario then " she's gone crazy with a gun, even if that's what they would find.

He needed an Alibi, this way he has No Alibi other than arriving in the morning and finding the event.

If he receives a phone call from WHF from his Father and shows there was a call from WHF to GH,  this then backs up his claim that he was at home.  All he has to do then, is manipulate the times around to suit. By not calling 999 leaves him breathing space and a delay tactic.   He can then further cement his Alibi by arriving after the Police, and by this time, it  then enables him to build on the story and picture while he’s outside standing with the police,  he sort off becomes a victim of what’s happening.

Both ways have risk,  and one can never be sure of the right way, but if someone rings you at home, and asks for your help,  means that person is alive and someone else is carrying out the murders?

[snow66!]

Well Snow, have you ever considered it possible that the CT aren't entirely convinced of his innocence?

No, to be quite honest, I dont believe that at all, Jane!
I am sure they are quite sincere, if not they must be bampots with nothing better to do!

[ILB]

He needed an Alibi, this way he has No Alibi other than arriving in the morning and finding the event.

If he receives a phone call from WHF from his Father and shows there was a call from WHF to GH,  this then backs up his claim that he was at home.  All he has to do then, is manipulate the times around to suit. By not calling 999 leaves him breathing space and a delay tactic.   He can then further cement his Alibi by arriving after the Police, and by this time, it  then enables him to build on the story and picture while he’s outside standing with the police,  he sort off becomes a victim of what’s happening.

Both ways have risk,  and one can never be sure of the right way, but if someone rings you at home, and asks for your help,  means that person is alive and someone else is carrying out the murders?

Depends how much he knew about call tracing and timestamps.

He obviously wasn't two concerned about having to explain the potential gaps in travel times.

But potentially there could be a 40 minute gap from the call from WHF to GH and GH to Chelmsford. To account for travel back time.

If that had been timestamped that would have been subject to scrutiny bigstyle.

[ILB]

He was obviously confident with the " nevill phonecall "

[Hardy Boy]

Depends how much he knew about call tracing and timestamps.

He obviously wasn't two concerned about having to explain the potential gaps in travel times.

But potentially there could be a 40 minute gap from the call from WHF to GH and GH to Chelmsford. To account for travel back time.

If that had been timestamped that would have been subject to scrutiny bigstyle.

I agree ILB,  but he covers some by saying he had to look up the number for the police station, and if he travelled by car, he’s well within the time range.  He also covers it by saying he phoned Julie first before the Police.

[ILB]

He needed an Alibi, this way he has No Alibi other than arriving in the morning and finding the event.

I think there was a part of him what was terribly confident in that he had the perfect scapegoat in Shelia. A confident character. He may have just have been expected to be believed. In many a sense she was the perfect scapegoat.

I think he rode his confidence heavily on this crime. It camw down to " she's mad, they'll just think she's gone crackers shes a history of mental health problems , I'm middle class, clean cut well spoken they'll buy me" and initially at least it worked.