Article about recent decision

[Jane]

His reasons to Bews was " i didn't think it would make any difference " and " i dont know how your system works"

Let's take it from the mindset that he knew exactly how the system worked and 999 would achieve a quicker response.

Logically, reasonably, realistically, there couldn't, possibly, be any other mindset, could there!?

[ILB]

Logically, reasonably, realistically, there couldn't, possibly, be any other mindset, could there!?

My point is then Jane why didnt he ring 999?

Agree we are all taught what to do, we all know it.

So him not doing it there must be a reason

[ILB]

There must have been some preconceived disadvantage in his mind to him by his choice of not to ring 999.

Such as he felt that it would incriminate him or look dodgy ( in his thinking)

Otherwise he wouldn't have wasted time looking up a phone number for Chelmsford.

[Jane]

My point is then Jane why didnt he ring 999?

Agree we are all taught what to do, we all know it.

So him not doing it there must be a reason

I can only think he was trying to buy time. What he'd done, surely couldn't have not shaken him? If only by way of making him question that he'd got it right, wonder if he'd gone over the top with his father, be concerned about the two shots to Sheila. Wonder if he'd covered himself enough to get away with it. Remember, once that call went through to police, the fat was in the frying pan, so to speak. There was no going back.

[Rob_]

I can only think he was trying to buy time. What he'd done, surely couldn't have not shaken him? If only by way of making him question that he'd got it right, wonder if he'd gone over the top with his father, be concerned about the two shots to Sheila. Wonder if he'd covered himself enough to get away with it. Remember, once that call went through to police, the fat was in the frying pan, so to speak. There was no going back.

Buy time a couple of minutes at the most? What did JB think he was gaining by not ringing 999?

I remember my grandad telling me people often rang the local station in times of crisis instead of 999 in those days.

[Hardy Boy]

His reasons to Bews was " i didn't think it would make any difference " and " i dont know how your system works"

Let's take it from the mindset that he knew exactly how the system worked and 999 would achieve a quicker response.

He said his father sounded terrified when he called the  Police on the Phone

[ILB]

I can only think he was trying to buy time. What he'd done, surely couldn't have not shaken him? If only by way of making him question that he'd got it right, wonder if he'd gone over the top with his father, be concerned about the two shots to Sheila. Wonder if he'd covered himself enough to get away with it. Remember, once that call went through to police, the fat was in the frying pan, so to speak. There was no going back.

I often wonder if he toyed with the idea of waiting till the morning.

If the workers couldn't get in touch will Nevill they will not attempt to go in the farmhouse and assume Nevill is preoccupied. However they would be alarmed by the fact that Nevills cars and vans would still be on the premises.

Either way the workers will wait till Jeremy arrives.

They have then the option of kicking the door down or phoning the police.

The trouble with this situation is Jeremy can't heavily insinuate the guilt as Shelia, it would be more a " somethings not right here " scenario then " she's gone crazy with a gun, even if that's what they would find.

[snow66!]

Come on snow, everyone knows that in an emergency you call 999. We get taught it at school. Even my 12 year old daughter would call 999 in the event of an emergency.

I have just asked her and she is surprised that it is even a question.

Incidentally, it was put to Jeremy why didn't he phone 999 when "the phone book said in bold in an emergency call 999"

Yes, but as I said, Dan, Nevill didn't know whether it was an emergency or not until he went upstairs!
JB had little information from his dad either, he dithered about phoning the police at all! When he did he tried to keep it local, with police who might know the Bambers.
Your mind doesn't work right in a criris, you panic and in hindsight make wrong decisions!

[snow66!]

But Snow, you haven't, yet, explained why an adequately medicated Sheila, still around a week away from her next injection, would suddenly succumb to a psychotic episode. To make your theory work, she'd have needed to be having one. I don't think anyone here can imagine Sheila displaying violence. One of the reasons the relatives didn't believe she was responsible for the carnage................apart from her not knowing how to use a gun, that is!

I'm not a Doctor or Psychologist, Jane! I am fitting a credible scenario around the Aga burns!

[ILB]

The advantage of the waiting till the morning is he wouldn't have had to make out he had a call from Nevill which the prosecution heavily poured scorn on.

[Jane]

Buy time a couple of minutes at the most? What did JB think he was gaining by not ringing 999?

I remember my grandad telling me people often rang the local station in times of crisis instead of 999 in those days.

Possibly so, but I'd put money on him stringing it out for longer. It's also, probably, the call he didn't want to make so he had to bee clear, in his own mind, that he'd got it right. Once the call was made, there was no going back.

[ILB]

It's likely he may have viewed his call from GH to police as very important to give the impression " I've been home all night me mate "

In a sense a different time era, he couldn't have a solid alibi one way another no electronic tracing, no call tracing, a bloke who lived alone.

[Jane]

I often wonder if he toyed with the idea of waiting till the morning.

If the workers couldn't get in touch will Nevill they will not attempt to go in the farmhouse and assume Nevill is preoccupied. However they would be alarmed by the fact that Nevills cars and vans would still be on the premises.

Either way the workers will wait till Jeremy arrives.

They have then the option of kicking the door down or phoning the police.

The trouble with this situation is Jeremy can't heavily insinuate the guilt as Shelia, it would be more a " somethings not right here " scenario then " she's gone crazy with a gun, even if that's what they would find.

It was an option. May have been in his mind whilst he was looking for telephone numbers?

[Jane]

I'm not a Doctor or Psychologist, Jane! I amfitting a credible scenario around the Aga burns!

Exactly! One scenario being fitted round another! Credible? Either?

[snow66!]

Exactly! One scenario being fitted round another! Credible? Either?

Well, at least its a full guilty Sheila scenario, Jane! Which is more than the CT has given, as far as I can see!