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« Reply #165 on: July 10, 2025, 08:46:PM »
Read my posts the cream phone could have been moved to the bedroom and others as needed. Please do not make unsubstantiated claims HB

With the cordless phone out of action they needed to adjust/modify how they used their phones. Surely they would not want to run from the living room to the kitchen to answer the phone if they were watching tele in the living room. Assuming they could hear it.

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« Reply #166 on: July 10, 2025, 08:52:PM »
With the cordless phone out of action they needed to adjust/modify how they used their phones. Surely they would not want to run from the living room to the kitchen to answer the phone if they were watching tele in the living room. Assuming they could hear it.
Why not use the Fawn coloured phone from the Kitchen, it was working perfectly, instead of hiding it under the Magazines?  If they were only using it to answer calls it wouldn’t be a problem.

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« Reply #167 on: July 10, 2025, 08:54:PM »
With the cordless phone out of action they needed to adjust/modify how they used their phones. Surely they would not want to run from the living room to the kitchen to answer the phone if they were watching tele in the living room. Assuming they could hear it.
Do you think June carried the cream phone about the house with her like the portable cordless phone?   Unplugging it and carrying it from socket to socket?

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« Reply #168 on: July 10, 2025, 08:54:PM »
I don’t buy your claims and posts, your posts are made up by you,   saying it could doesn’t mean it was.  The evidence……………. Pike said the cream phone was in the kitchen two days before the murders, the raid team found the cream phone in the kitchen on the day of the murders with the phone off the hook, photo’s taken on the morning by Bird show the cream phone in the Kitchen, Bamber said the Bedroom phone had been taken down to the Kitchen because the kitchen phone wasn’t working.

So your claim I am making unsubstantiated claims is false as per usual, I have given good evidence that the cream phone was in the kitchen, where as you have given COULD have as your evidence!  All your trying to do, is to make it look like June was alive and it was June this and June that Bollocks to tie in with your stupid theory that June was alive and she was shot by the TFG.

I am merely suggesting what could have happened which is more realistic. We know the kitchen phone was caput and that they had to use the bedroom phone to accommodate this new situation but I think it is more likely that they moved it around as needed rather than leaving it in the kitchen on a semi permanent basis.
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« Reply #169 on: July 10, 2025, 09:04:PM »
Do you think June carried the cream phone about the house with her like the portable cordless phone?   Unplugging it and carrying it from socket to socket?

That is an exaggeration. They would move it when the circumstances were such that it was the most sensible option. For example going to the living room to watch tele. There is no evidence that the cream phone was in the kitchen the whole time from when Pike saw it. It would be moved when it was more convenient. 'Hence Jean Boutells description of 'musical phones'

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« Reply #170 on: July 10, 2025, 09:04:PM »
I am merely suggesting what could have happened which is more realistic. We know the kitchen phone was caput and that they had to use the bedroom phone to accommodate this new situation but I think it is more likely that they moved it around as needed rather than leaving it in the kitchen on a semi permanent basis.
So it’s your posts that’s making Unsubstantiated claims, why the hell accuse me of what your doing.  I follow evidence, you make evidence up.  I try to be truthful, I’ve called Bob Woof Woof out and I’ve also said it weakens the fact Bamber moved the phones on the day of the murders.

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« Reply #171 on: July 10, 2025, 09:06:PM »
That is an exaggeration. They would move it when the circumstances were such that it was the most sensible option. For example going to the living room to watch tele. There is no evidence that the cream phone was in the kitchen the whole time from when Pike saw it. It would be moved when it was more convenient. 'Hence Jean Boutells description of 'musical phones'
So you want to believe Jean when it suits you, but you don’t believe her when it doesn’t suit you.  She had bad memory remember.

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« Reply #172 on: July 10, 2025, 09:13:PM »
The cream coloured phone must have been in place in the Kitchen,   the night Jeremy emptied the box of bullets out next to the phone in the Kitchen.



Whilst they were talking I took my .22 semi-automatic rifle
from the study and loaded the magazine in the kitchen after tipping a box of anmunition out onto the side near the telephone in the kitchen. I was in
a rush having just seen two rabbits

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« Reply #173 on: July 10, 2025, 09:21:PM »
So you want to believe Jean when it suits you, but you don’t believe her when it doesn’t suit you.  She had bad memory remember.
It is evident that she had to change her position under cross examination saying that JB called it a spare and not broken as she said in her statement. I do not attach any blame on her part. She misremembered what JB had said unless of course the police manipulated her original statement. As we have come to expect her statement is unsigned.

Have you ever wondered why Keneally was able to produce his conclusion when asked to review the case that SC was the culprit so quickly given the volume of evidence, statements, etc. He only had to know that there was someone alive in WHF when JB was outside with the police to support his conclusion

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« Reply #174 on: July 10, 2025, 09:23:PM »
The cream coloured phone must have been in place in the Kitchen,   the night Jeremy emptied the box of bullets out next to the phone in the Kitchen.



Whilst they were talking I took my .22 semi-automatic rifle
from the study and loaded the magazine in the kitchen after tipping a box of anmunition out onto the side near the telephone in the kitchen. I was in
a rush having just seen two rabbits
But that was before they went to bed for the night.

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« Reply #175 on: July 10, 2025, 09:56:PM »
But that was before they went to bed for the night.

One final thought for today. How was NB supposed to respond to any emergency situation on the farm, at night, if there was no phone in the bedroom?

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« Reply #176 on: July 10, 2025, 10:00:PM »
One final thought for today. How was NB supposed to respond to any emergency situation on the farm, at night, if there was no phone in the bedroom?
Why didn’t he take the Fawn kitchen phone with him, in perfect working order?

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« Reply #177 on: July 10, 2025, 10:04:PM »
One final thought for today. How was NB supposed to respond to any emergency situation on the farm, at night, if there was no phone in the bedroom?


A) He wasn't supposed to. It was removed to prevent such

B) He didn't realize the phone was missing until he needed to use it

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« Reply #178 on: July 10, 2025, 10:16:PM »
It is evident that she had to change her position under cross examination saying that JB called it a spare and not broken as she said in her statement. I do not attach any blame on her part. She misremembered what JB had said unless of course the police manipulated her original statement. As we have come to expect her statement is unsigned.

Have you ever wondered why Keneally was able to produce his conclusion when asked to review the case that SC was the culprit so quickly given the volume of evidence, statements, etc. He only had to know that there was someone alive in WHF when JB was outside with the police to support his conclusion
Have you got her Court cross examination?

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« Reply #179 on: July 10, 2025, 10:17:PM »
Why didn’t he take the Fawn kitchen phone with him, in perfect working order?

That was an alternative but it would not suit June who may have wanted to speak to family and friends in her own space and to use her favoured phone in her bedroom. I think she was a bit technophobic and did not like the push buttons and a modern design in the handset. NB was a good man and I am sure he wasn't bothered and it made no difference to him. He just needed a phone in the bedroom and he wanted her to be happy.