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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2025, 08:36:AM »
The CCRC decision is not remotely surprising.  It can be evidenced from a description of the submission that the 'issues' are either unsupported by any sort of evidence capable of standing up to scrutiny.  Or they are totally irrelevant in that they do not meet CPS criteria for an appeal to CoA:

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/new-ccrc-submission
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2025, 08:39:AM »
The CCRC decision is not remotely surprising.  It can be evidenced from a description of the submission that the 'issues' are either unsupported by any sort of evidence capable of standing up to scrutiny.  Or they are totally irrelevant in that they do not meet CPS criteria for an appeal to CoA:

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/new-ccrc-submission
Maybe Stan climbing through the window into WHF and placing his own blood on the silencer does?
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2025, 08:43:AM »
The CCRC decision is not remotely surprising.  It can be evidenced from a description of the submission that the 'issues' are either unsupported by any sort of evidence capable of standing up to scrutiny.  Or they are totally irrelevant in that they do not meet CPS criteria for an appeal to CoA:

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/new-ccrc-submission
You can’t criticise anything or anybody on here with the Shite you’ve suggested!

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2025, 08:47:AM »
The CCRC decision is not remotely surprising.  It can be evidenced from a description of the submission that the 'issues' are either unsupported by any sort of evidence capable of standing up to scrutiny.  Or they are totally irrelevant in that they do not meet CPS criteria for an appeal to CoA:

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/new-ccrc-submission

We are yet to understand whether or not the standard of investigational work meets the quality expected under Vera Baird.

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2025, 09:01:AM »
We are yet to understand whether or not the standard of investigational work meets the quality expected under Vera Baird.

Vera Baird has no say over the CPS criteria for appeals.  The submissions made in 2021 do not even touch the sides let alone get to the heart of the matter.  If you and others want to live in a fools paradise that's up to you. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2025, 09:05:AM »
You can’t criticise anything or anybody on here with the Shite you’ve suggested!

You are not party to what I have 'suggested' so stop pretending otherwise.  It is not necessary or even possible to point the finger at who fabricated the silencer.  It is sufficient to show that it was fabricated and call it out for what it was...F-A-B-R-I-C-A-T-E-D.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2025, 09:10:AM »
Is this an end to the submission, ngb, or will the CCRC continue to consider the other issues that haven't been looked at yet? eg, the Aga evidence!
May be they should have listened to your Theory Snow, Sheila knocked Neville out cold for three hours and he fell beside the AGA, causing the three burn marks. If only?

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2025, 09:14:AM »
Has Jez made a statement yet?
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2025, 09:15:AM »
Maybe Stan climbing through the window into WHF and placing his own blood on the silencer does?

There's putting stuff out there for forum fodder/discussion and there's material for a CCRC submission.  A disinction you would struggle to grapple with.  It is not necessary or even possible to point the finger at who fabricated the silencer.  It is sufficient to show that it was fabricated and call it out for what it was...
...F-A-B-R-I-C-A-T-E-D

I have always said it will be down to the investigating authorities to determine who fabricated the silencer evidence post acquittal. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2025, 09:15:AM »
You are not party to what I have 'suggested' so stop pretending otherwise.  It is not necessary or even possible to point the finger at who fabricated the silencer.  It is sufficient to show that it was fabricated and call it out for what it was...F-A-B-R-I-C-A-T-E-D.
I’m not pretending Cutie; I’m just speaking the truth.  Your theory revolves around Stan Fabricating the Silencer in the first place!
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2025, 09:16:AM »
Has Jez made a statement yet?

Expecting to be home for Christmas based on a judicial review. 
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2025, 09:20:AM »
I’m not pretending Cutie; I’m just speaking the truth.  Your theory revolves around Stan Fabricating the Silencer in the first place!

You are pretending because there's only one regular member here who is party to my research and communication with a forenisc scientist who is at the top of her game and I can assure you the name DS Jones does not appear. 

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Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2025, 09:20:AM »
Vera Baird has no say over the CPS criteria for appeals.  The submissions made in 2021 do not even touch the sides let alone get to the heart of the matter.  If you and others want to live in a fools paradise that's up to you.

That doesn't make sense does it? If it was as simple as that, we wouldn't have seen the level and depth of criticism that we have done.  I think you imprison yourself, with your limited scope of approach. You fail to understand that other  organisations within the UK justice system are also at risk of a CCRC-esque exposure. 

You still haven't caught up.

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2025, 09:22:AM »
That doesn't make sense does it? If it was as simple as that, we wouldn't have seen the level and depth of criticism that we have done.  I think you imprison yourself, with your limited scope of approach. You fail to understand that other  organisations within the UK justice system are also at risk of a CCRC-esque exposure. 

You still haven't caught up.

The fact the CCRC have failed many appellants does not mean JB is one of them. 

You haven't even got off the starting block let alone caught up!
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2025, 09:44:AM »
The fact the CCRC have failed many appellants does not mean JB is one of them. 

You haven't even got off the starting block let alone caught up!

Clearly he is, otherwise you wouldn't be fighting his case.

But JB case aside.. any innocent person that is turned down by the CCRC, prevented from accessing evidence by the CPS, police or courts, is a failure for the justice system, regardless of developments in DNA testing.

You seem to think it makes more sense to spend millions on incarcerating someone, until DNA eventually proves them innocent.

Whereas people with common sense want the innocence found earlier - by proper investigation, the use of powers, and a very searching attitude towards the prosecution agencies involved in the conviction.  We don't want someone aged 99 getting acquitted through DNA after spending 50 years in prison.