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Offline Roch

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2025, 08:19:PM »

Especially when they choose to adopt hairbrained theories and push them as facts!

We'll have to see if Baird backs them. A desktop review is no good. But without seeing the PSOR, we don't know investigations they made.

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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2025, 08:25:PM »
If the CCRC really have only dismissed 4 grounds, then that is over a year per ground.

So not sure why the CT are saying the CCRC didn't investigate properly.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.


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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2025, 08:35:PM »
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and furballs.

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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2025, 08:42:PM »
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/new-ccrc-submission

Going by this there is not much left for the CCRC to look at.

The windows would have been checked by the defence in 1985.

Complaints against officers. When isn't the CT complaining about officers.

Inheritance. Yes everyone has known since 1985 the relatives would inherit upon his conviction.
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2025, 08:43:PM »
Pay for that?!  You must be joking, just another grifter on the make.

That's your choice.

Offline BarefootDanC

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2025, 09:26:PM »
I think it should have been a stand alone issue, Jane.
Pairing up the Aga evidence with the claim that the police moved Nevill could spell disaster, if the CT cant prove that Nevill was moved from the Aga, it may follow that the Aga evidence is thrown out along with it!

I may have to get in touch with JB and the CT and reprimand them for the way they have dealt with Philip Boyce's Aga evidence!
Yes, I will ring Bamber and put him straight before it is too late, it will go something like this......
Hello! is that you JB? 'yes its me' , 'who's this'? Oh its Snow66, you may have heard of me? 'No, never heard of you, what do you want? Oh!Well i'll tell you what I want sunshine, If you want to get out anytime soon you better listen good and follow my advice!  'Your advice Snow, about what'?  Why, about the Aga evidence of course boy, if you pair it up with the claim that Nevill was moved from the Aga to the scuttle and cant prove this, then the Aga evidence will be wasted and thrown out too lad!
Why do you think your dad was moved anyway? What's that sonny, it was Yvonne's idea? Nah nah! Dont come that with me laddie, you said in an article that the police moved your dad from the cooker because they feared that his pyjama jacket may have taken on fire!  What? Gallows humour maybe? Nah Jezzer, nobody buys that either!
Anyway, how does the police moving Nevill prove your innocence anyway, squire?? Mm?
Ok now matey, listen up, here's what I want you to do! You get an urgent message sent to the CCRC saying that the Aga burns must have been formed earlier on in proceedings between 12.00-3.00 before your dad phoned you, its the only scenario that fits the crime scene, capiche? Yes, this is when the burns were formed after Sheila knocked your dad out cold, he regained conciousness a few hours later with a fractured skull, that is why he sounded shaken when he phoned you buddy! Nevill then confronted Sheila upstairs before making a hasty retreat back to the kitchen where he was shot to death on the chair/scuttle. The police did not move your dad after entry, Jez!
So, there you are, get this info to the ccrc ASAP! Tell them you were wrong about the police moving Nevill. Then Bobs your uncle, you will have the keys to the door at last!
Pardon? You're happy with that? Good,good!  What's that? You'll get Philip to deliver the evidence tomorow? Very good lad, very good! What? No no, no thanks needed Jez! No thanks needed!
OK, bye for now! Yes, see you on the outside soon Mr Bamber!

.......Yes, that is what I will be saying to JB before it is too late, Jane!


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How can it be proved that the police moved Nevill from the Aga?

Even if they did, how does that prove it was Sheila not Jeremy who killed the family?

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2025, 09:29:PM »
How can it be proved that the police moved Nevill from the Aga?

Even if they did, how does that prove it was Sheila not Jeremy who killed the family?
That is the exact same questions that I have been asking too, Dan!

Offline ngb1066

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2025, 09:37:PM »
Thanks. Have you seen the PSOR? Another timely death strikes again eh. RIP Nick Milbank.

I have, but I cannot post it.  All I will say is that it is not impressive. The attitude displayed is lamentable.  It is to be hoped that the new leadership at the CCRC will change the culture there.

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2025, 09:40:PM »
Keep your ears peeled for a Millbank audio to come!

I believe you are correct.  Where have you seen this mentioned?

 

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2025, 09:42:PM »
Is this an end to the submission, ngb, or will the CCRC continue to consider the other issues that haven't been looked at yet? eg, the Aga evidence!

They are going to consider other issues.  They have dealt with the grounds in stages, but in reality they are clear they are not going to refer the case.




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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2025, 09:44:PM »
The Campaign Team have told me some time ago that they intend to publish everything, but I very much doubt they will.

I think the CCRC Statement of Reasons will be to embarrassing for Bamber to want to publish it.

My own view is that the CCRC PSOR would not embarrass JB.  I understand the reluctance to publish material because it can be misused.  I believe it shows the CCRC in a bad light.


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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2025, 09:45:PM »


From beyond the grave, d'ya think?

Wait and see.


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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2025, 09:48:PM »
We'll have to see if Baird backs them. A desktop review is no good. But without seeing the PSOR, we don't know investigations they made.

I think if Vera Baird looks at this, as she is being urged to do, she will be very reluctant to give a ringing endorsement to the CCRC's performance to date.
 

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2025, 09:51:PM »
The AGA 'theory' isn't evidence.

It is evidence but it is not direct evidence of events.  It is expert scientific evidence which could be admitted in evidence at trial.  It is therefore relevant.