Stuart Bower

[Adam]

Woffindon was another person who changed his mind. Although never really a supporter.

He was a MOJ writer who Bamber contacted.

He did write an article asking is Bamber innocent? It was the usual '2 bodies in the kitchen' etc.

His article saying why he changed his mind was not great either. 

He did say on video Sheila was not physically capable of committing the massacre, which was more convincing.

[ILB]

As said can't blame Bamber for reacting the way he did.

[Hardy Boy]

Wonder why Bamber used Michael Stone as the excuse?  Personally I think this guy has said something to upset someone, the CT are Bamber’s eyes in the outside world, most of the time they tell him who to correspond with and who not to. 

[Hardy Boy]

Maybe, at some point,  he’s questioned Heidi on the things she’s been saying and he’s realised this is not what Bamber had told him, this has upset people in the CT and Bamber has used the Michael Stone correspondence to get rid of him. 

[ngb1066]

I believe this exact thing happened with me. I had not written to JB for like four years, when out the blue I got a letter for him about my recent online posts and it was rather belligerent. I had no intentions of replying but a week or so later I got another letter from him apologising after he went through my old letters and refreshed his memory ect.

Unfortunately this sort of thing has happened quite often over the years.  It is very unfair on JB.  A few years ago I kicked one CT member off here for doing just that.  He was lurking here copying posts, printing them and sending them selectively to JB to wind him up. 

[ILB]

Wonder why Bamber used Michael Stone as the excuse?  Personally I think this guy has said something to upset someone, the CT are Bamber’s eyes in the outside world, most of the time they tell him who to correspond with and who not to.

If I was a life sentenced prisoner with miminum spends a week and I was claiming a MOJ, I would probably get pissed off if someone started talking about another MOJ case to me and wanted me to write about it etc. It's pure self preservation mode.

But yes I agree it's totally possible someone poisoned his mind against Bower.

[ILB]

Having said this I have seen plenty of women advertise letters from JB online for profit. So it does seem he engages in letter writing not strictly engaged to his case to this day. But I would find writing to women in his situation more appealing than discussing Michael Stones case.

[ILB]

The email a prisoner service aids JB in this day and age.

[Jane]

Unfortunately this sort of thing has happened quite often over the years.  It is very unfair on JB.  A few years ago I kicked one CT member off here for doing just that.  He was lurking here copying posts, printing them and sending them selectively to JB to wind him up.

As his was clearly not the behaviour one might expect from a supporter, one could be forgiven for thinking this person could have been an infiltrator. Might there be more where that one came from?

[ILB]

For me scale back the CT, get rid of the Campaign Team name, just some low key individuals, look at building a fact based 1 hour documentary, get rid of all the tik tok bollocks etc.

Campaign Team sounds like he's running for office.

[Hardy Boy]

Unfortunately this sort of thing has happened quite often over the years.  It is very unfair on JB.  A few years ago I kicked one CT member off here for doing just that.  He was lurking here copying posts, printing them and sending them selectively to JB to wind him up.

I think they do wind him up NGB,  there’s a select few in the CT who like to be in control.

[Hardy Boy]

If I was a life sentenced prisoner with miminum spends a week and I was claiming a MOJ, I would probably get pissed off if someone started talking about another MOJ case to me and wanted me to write about it etc. It's pure self preservation mode.

But yes I agree it's totally possible someone poisoned his mind against Bower.

If I was a lifer , I would appreciate anyone’s help, wouldn’t matter how many other cases they were involved in.

[Curiosity]

For me scale back the CT, get rid of the Campaign Team name, just some low key individuals, look at building a fact based 1 hour documentary, get rid of all the tik tok bollocks etc.

Campaign Team sounds like he's running for office.

As well as ill-informed tripe elsewhere, such as two bullets showing up on Sheila's neck x-ray -

[ngb1066]

As his was clearly not the behaviour one might expect from a supporter, one could be forgiven for thinking this person could have been an infiltrator. Might there be more where that one came from?

I knew who the member was.  He was definitely in the JB inner circle and he may still be although I am not sure.  Some of those who actively support JB are well motivated and sincere and some have done a lot of genuine work.  There are some others - I think you have seen examples on Facebook - who are thoroughly unpleasant and do a lot of harm. 

 

[ILB]

If I was a lifer , I would appreciate anyone’s help, wouldn’t matter how many other cases they were involved in.

Anyone's help on my case yes, I couldn't waste time or resources discussing other people's cases.

Self interest big style in that situation and I'd expect anyone else to be the same.