henry novak

[nugnug]

im still trying to get my head round this case https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62ek7lk553o

[ngb1066]

im still trying to get my head round this case https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62ek7lk553o

The police clearly made a complete hash of this throughout. 

[nugnug]

how can they not know a bleeding man was injured why did they think he was on the ground

[ngb1066]

how can they not know a bleeding man was injured why did they think he was on the ground

I agree there are certainly serious questions to answer.

 

[Hardy Boy]

It’s absolutely shocking, the question I have, Why Sikhs carry a ceremonial curved blade or dagger, known as a kirpan, as a mandatory article of faith. They can walk about our Streets with one one these tucked away, they claim it’s for their religion, supposed not to be a weapon, it stinks!

Supposed to be not as a weapon, but, representing a spiritual obligation to protect the weak, FIGHT injustice, and act with grace, in other words for Defence. If I carried one for defence I’d get years in jail.

[Hardy Boy]

The Police Race Action Plan is the biggest coordinated effort ever across every police force in England and Wales to improve trust and confidence in policing among Black communities.

Every Chief Constable has signed up to support the plan and achieve its objectives, the first time there has been such a coordinated, unified response across policing to making the vital improvements envisaged under the plan.



The Hampshire police anti racism action plan, our victims will be put first…… when you read that, is it any wonder where their first duty was, I know they ignored a dying man, but it’s programmed into them zero tolerance on Racism?

[Cambridgecutie]

It’s absolutely shocking, the question I have, Why Sikhs carry a ceremonial curved blade or dagger, known as a kirpan, as a mandatory article of faith. They can walk about our Streets with one one these tucked away, they claim it’s for their religion, supposed not to be a weapon, it stinks!

Supposed to be not as a weapon, but, representing a spiritual obligation to protect the weak, FIGHT injustice, and act with grace, in other words for Defence. If I carried one for defence I’d get years in jail.

Yeah that's what I thought.  But when it was said they are allowed to carry them did it mean allowed in terms of their religion as opposed to allow in terms of UK law?

[Hardy Boy]

Yeah that's what I thought.  But when it was said they are allowed to carry them did it mean allowed in terms of their religion as opposed to allow in terms of UK law?

They're allowed to carry them and it’s religion? 

Under UK law a person can possess a kirpan for religious, ceremonial, sporting or historical reasons. But, like any bladed article, a kirpan can become an offensive weapon if it is used unlawfully.

The government says it is up to a court to decide if a person has a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if they are charged with carrying it illegally.


The CPS said Digwa carried two ceremonial blades, describing both as kirpans, and said the judge, who described the weapon Digwa was carrying as a “large Sikh dagger”, accepted that assessment.

But leaders of the Sikh community, who have unanimously condemned the murder, said the blade used by Digwa was not a kirpan, while the Sikh Press Association said plans were under way to ensure every initiated Sikh in the UK would be addressed directly regarding kirpan rules and responsibilities.