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Sheila's nightdress is very damaging -

No GSR.

No damage.

No oil.

No dirt.

No powder.

Only her blood on it.

No vertical blood trails showing she did not walk around after the first shot.

Legs pulled after the second shot.

It is her sleeping attire suggesting she went to bed.

It is her sleeping attire suggesting she was woken from sleeping.

It is her sleeping attire. Suggesting she did not do ritualistic washing & change into better clothes prior to being found. As suggested suicides do.

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But appreciate he has focused on the silencer since the 90's as the relatives found it.

The focus needs to be on the blood/silencer as this underpins the conviction.

SC's found state can easily be debunked.
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Why did Puglove do that exactly?  :-\

I really have no idea.  There was a small group of extremely nasty individuals involved and the abuse was relentless.


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Having read through a lot of the posts about the differences in the types of abuse on blue vs red forums, I would like to give my take on it. 

On blue there have been members who have been abusive or excessively dismissive towards those supporting guilt, over the time frame of the forum.  However, the worst offenders where kind of recognised by both sides of case.  There was an understanding that excesses took place - but the 'sensible' posters on both sides of the case recognised it as such.  Moderators didn't always intervene as much as those on the receiving end would like.  And this has led to accusations of bias.  But - most people supporting guilt on here have been able to give as good as they got.

When I look at the Red forum - it's on another level.  It's as if there was small hardcore of posters who seemed to revel in mocking.  I feel it had more viciousness to it in comparison to over here.  Regardless who was a mod over there, that small hardcore where the ones running the show.  Because of this, I sense there was less willingness among other posters over there to recognise what was happening was wrong.
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Having read through a lot of the posts about the differences in the types of abuse on blue vs red forums, I would like to give my take on it. 

On blue there have been members who have been abusive or excessively dismissive towards those supporting guilt, over the time frame of the forum.  However, the worst offenders where kind of recognised by both sides of case.  There was an understanding that excesses took place - but the 'sensible' posters on both sides of the case recognised it as such.  Moderators didn't always intervene as much as those on the receiving end would like.  And this has led to accusations of bias.  But - most people supporting guilt on here have been able to give as good as they got.

When I look at the Red forum - it's on another level.  It's as if there was small hardcore of posters who seemed to revel in mocking.  I feel it had more viciousness to it in comparison to over here.  Regardless who was a mod over there, that small hardcore where the ones running the show.  Because of this, I sense there was less willingness among other posters over there to recognise what was happening was wrong.
I agree entirely with that Roch.   I think the Red had a lot of posters with Sour Grapes towards the blue Forum. 

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I agree entirely with that Roch.   I think the Red had a lot of posters with Sour Grapes towards the blue Forum.

I'm glad I got it right 😏

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I can't think people would even act this way when it's a case of five people dead ( including two children) and a man whovclaims he has been wrongly imprisoned. How people can can act like what's been described in this thread boggles the mind, I admit I call Adam a tit and he gives me some back but for me it's just banter because we often dispute from the polar opposites. It's madness.
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I can't think people would even act this way when it's a case of five people dead ( including two children) and a man whovclaims he has been wrongly imprisoned. How people can can act like what's been described in this thread boggles the mind, I admit I call Adam a tit and he gives me some back but for me it's just banter because we often dispute from the polar opposites. It's madness.

I agree ILB.  What we have here is generally banter and is very limited.  If it goes too far it is dealt with.  Overall I think we avoid excesses and the views of everyone are respected.  We need to keep it that way.

 

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I'm glad I got it right 😏
Ha Ha, your getting more things right lately Roch, is it because you post less 😂😂. Only joking mate.

You will find on the red Forum, they have a section dedicated to the Jeremy Bamber forum, certain topics are attributed to Grahame, it doesn’t take much working out who was saying what, and coming from moderators as well!

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Having read through a lot of the posts about the differences in the types of abuse on blue vs red forums, I would like to give my take on it. 

On blue there have been members who have been abusive or excessively dismissive towards those supporting guilt, over the time frame of the forum.  However, the worst offenders where kind of recognised by both sides of case.  There was an understanding that excesses took place - but the 'sensible' posters on both sides of the case recognised it as such.  Moderators didn't always intervene as much as those on the receiving end would like.  And this has led to accusations of bias.  But - most people supporting guilt on here have been able to give as good as they got.

When I look at the Red forum- it's on another level.  It's as if there was small hardcore of posters who seemed to revel in mocking.  I feel it had more viciousness to it in comparison to over here.  Regardless who was a mod over there, that small hardcore where the ones running the show.  Because of this, I sense there was less willingness among other posters over there to recognise what was happening was wrong.

When?  No one has posted regularly on the Red forum/Bamber board for years.  Oh you mean about a decade ago?

I will remind you of some of the comments made here about the victims of WHF:

NB fathered the twins - MT - removed

SC was promiscious - Lookout - remained

Not a shred of evidence for either.

I ended up on that forum because I was banned here due to coining a phrase from Red which was used to describe a bunch of regular female members here: 'knitting circle'  :)  I found it amusing and still do.  It might have even included me.  That is banter by most people's standards not abuse. 

Anyway when I found myself on Red, posting as a 'supporter', I didn't experience any issues you have described above. 

You are sounding like a massive girls blouse. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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When?  No one has posted regularly on the Red forum/Bamber board for years.  Oh you mean about a decade ago?

I will remind you of some of the comments made here about the victims of WHF:

NB fathered the twins - MT - removed

SC was promiscious - Lookout - remained

Not a shred of evidence for either.

I ended up on that forum because I was banned here due to coining a phrase from Red which was used to describe a bunch of regular female members here: 'knitting circle'  :)  I found it amusing and still do.  It might have even included me.  That is banter by most people's standards not abuse. 

Anyway when I found myself on Red, posting as a 'supporter', I didn't experience any issues you have described above. 

You are sounding like a massive girls blouse.
I think you are being very disrespectful of our Moderators, first they let you back on after being banned, they found out you had multiple accounts, they still let you post on here, show some respect for once..

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I think you are being very disrespectful of our Moderators, first they let you back on after being banned, they found out you had multiple accounts, they still let you post on here, show some respect for once..

Oh pleeze...stop being a creep.  You are sounding like a massive girls blouse Softy Boy.  Who are you today?  Softy Boy or Real Justice?  It is not a rule breach to use different user names.  It is a breach to to use more than one profile at any given time which I have never done. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Oh pleeze...stop being a creep.  You are sounding like a massive girls blouse Softy Boy.  Who are you today?  Softy Boy or Real Justice?  It is not a rule breach to use different user names.  It is a breach to to use more than one profile at any given time which I have never done.
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I think you are being very disrespectful of our Moderators, first they let you back on after being banned, they found out you had multiple accounts, they still let you post on here, show some respect for once..

There are always two side to a story.  Different people have different perceptions. 

I agree mocking someone with a serious illness is totally unacceptable and amounts to disgusting and vile behaviour.  Remember this:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/17/football-fan-gets-suspended-sentence-after-mocking-mascot-bradley-lowery

How did those doing the mocking on Red find out about the unwell person?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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What about the sustained targeting of Lookout? That was over the top.

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What about the sustained targeting of Lookout? That was over the top.

It wasn't over the top.  Lookout out made what many regarded, myself included, as offensive posts.  You're just a northern numpty and don't see it. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs