Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981

[Hardy Boy]

I put 17 on my profile 10 years ago when having some banter with former poster Alias. Haven't changed it since.

Oh right 😂

[Cambridgecutie]

Now now Cutie, I didn’t mean it as a insult, it’s true, you had miners all living on the same estate.  Same with the Steel workers, housing estates were created for them.

Well you do get that sort of thing in the South too!  Eg housing was built for employees of Stewartby brickworks:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3wqx3z1zyxo

The brickworks closed some years ago and it is soon (2031) to be a home for Europe's Universal Studios:

https://news.sky.com/story/universal-uk-everything-we-know-so-far-about-the-new-theme-park-coming-to-bedford-13344939

[ILB]

The mines and Steel works created a family working bond ILB, community life was something the South never had.

My dad for a period of time after leaving the army worked at temple borough rolling Mills, Tinsley Sheffield, don't know if you recall it or not Hardy On the sheffield Rotherham border. Adjacent to where Magna is.

Bit of nostalgia but If I recall British steel was across the road just a bit further down

[ILB]

No we had civilisation instead.

Not massively familiar with Cambridge to be honest.

When I think Cambridgeshire, I think Soham and Ian Huntley.

Once bought a van from down kings Lynn which I believe is down that way.

[ILB]

I put 17 on my profile 10 years ago when having some banter with former poster Alias. Haven't changed it since.

Don't be shy about age, happens to us all, I'm 57 in July.

[Hardy Boy]

My dad for a period of time after leaving the army worked at temple borough rolling Mills, Tinsley Sheffield, don't know if you recall it or not Hardy On the sheffield Rotherham border. Adjacent to where Magna is.

Bit of nostalgia but If I recall British steel was across the road just a bit further down

I know the area, where the Magna is,  but can’t remember the works.

[Steve_uk]

No we had civilisation instead.

Did I tell you about the morning I spent in the Forensic Laboratory in Huntingdon? Cambridgecutie picked up David and myself at the station and her bestie drove the twenty miles or so to the premises. He works on the London Stock Exchange trading in tin (or was it softs, I was in the back and only caught snippets of the conversation) and David ignored me the whole time.  Linda Groombridge was there to welcome us at the entrance and once we had all donned our white uniforms and latex gloves Cambridgecutie set to work.

As we were informed, non-chain DNA is inadmissible in court. She added in the DNA chemicals and made a replica of that chain. After making a copy the copy fell off, which she assured us was quite normal and part of the process. After repeating this thirty-eight times she had enough copy to work with. Her one worry was that there would be degradation, no longer existing in their proper form. However, there was enough intact DNA to copy to form a result.

Taking a glass slide she added a few drops of the sample with a pipette, then covered the coverslip, gently pressing down to remove air bubbles. Lo and behold semen was discovered on the swab, which was sent off for DNA profiling.

David approached Linda with his forensic breakthrough on the White House Farm murders, but sadly she didn't seem overly impressed.

[ILB]

Did I tell you about the morning I spent in the Forensic Laboratory in Huntingdon? Cambridgecutie picked up David and myself at the station and her bestie drove the twenty miles or so to the premises. He works on the London Stock Exchange trading in tin (or was it softs, I was in the back and only caught snippets of the conversation) and David ignored me the whole time.  Linda Groombridge was there to welcome us at the entrance and once we had all donned our white uniforms and latex gloves Cambridgecutie set to work.

As we were informed, non-chain DNA is inadmissible in court. She added in the DNA chemicals and made a replica of that chain. After making a copy the copy fell off, which she assured us was quite normal and part of the process. After repeating this thirty-eight times she had enough copy to work with. Her one worry was that there would be degradation, no longer existing in their proper form. However, there was enough intact DNA to copy to form a result.

Taking a glass slide she added a few drops of the sample with a pipette, then covered the coverslip, gently pressing down to remove air bubbles. Lo and behold semen was discovered on the swab, which was sent off for DNA profiling.

David approached Linda with his forensic breakthrough on the White House Farm murders, but sadly she didn't seem too interested.

Interesting

I wouldn't have expected such an ardent guilter as yourself to undertaken such a feat Steve with all due respect.

[Steve_uk]

Interesting

I wouldn't have expected such an ardent guilter as yourself to undertaken such a feat Steve with all due respect.

Well, Northerners are a bit thick, don't you know. We have to rely on the knowledge and wisdom of Southerners to get through the day.

[ILB]

Well, Northerners are a bit thick, don't you know. We have to rely on the knowledge and wisdom of Southerners to get through the day.

Everything south of Sheffield is midlands to me until I'm in London if I am honest!

[Steve_uk]

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Did you watch the video? The reminiscences of the elderly, stories passed down to children and grandchildren. Youngsters feeling they're a part of something and not just a commodity. Of course, there are good adoptive parents, but adoptees may lose out or feel like they're losing out and experience a sense of alienation, as it appears with the White House Farm murders case.

[Cambridgecutie]

Ok. No one checked. The police made it up. The defence didn't check.

And CC/Curiosity's Mike's, ILB's  &  BuboBubo's theories are credible.

Theory about what?  DC Barlow claims he checked the windows and found only the kitchen window could be closed from outside.  Closed doesn't necessarily mean secured.  Did he check from inside WHF it was secured as DCI Jones did?  In any event I think the jurors needed to go to WHF to see for themselves how it worked in practice.

I think I read somewhere that Rivlin did attend the soc pre-trial?

[ILB]

I think I read somewhere that Rivlin did attend the soc pre-trial?

Correct, he did attend. He references it during cross exam with SJ, who was also there that day.

[ILB]

Theory about what?  DC Barlow claims he checked the windows and found only the kitchen window could be closed from outside.  Closed doesn't necessarily mean secured.  Did he check from inside WHF it was secured as DCI Jones did?  In any event I think the jurors needed to go to WHF to see for themselves how it worked in practice.

I think I read somewhere that Rivlin did attend the soc pre-trial?

Yes closed does not mean secured.

I still can't see how you could secure a turn handle mechanism window lock when being stood outside, as you alluded to a jury visit would have been beneficial.

I can't envisivage personally how banging a window from the exterior would cause the handle to fall back into a secure position.

[Steve_uk]

Yes closed does not mean secured.

I still can't see how you could secure a turn handle mechanism window lock when being stood outside, as you alluded to a jury visit would have been beneficial.

I can't envisivage personally how banging a window from the exterior would cause the handle to fall back into a secure position.

It depends on the age of the windows and for how long anyone had been practising the feat.