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Offline BarefootDanC

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Re: Refer or not!
« Reply #120 on: March 29, 2025, 02:02:PM »
Bamber will be sound, he's a strong character.

Guaranteed will probably make his relatives life difficult. In the legal sense. Private prosecution.

But then Bamber would have the burden of proof. He would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they had framed him or helped frame him.

If he lost the case, he would have a massive Costs Order against him.


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« Reply #121 on: March 29, 2025, 02:02:PM »
The New Yorker article has been sent to the CCRC for them to consider, along with the 1,000+ page March 2021 submissions and the two more recent submissions.

Even more recent to that, they have also sent the CCRC a picture of the silencer without a label as further proof of there being two silencers.

1000+ page. If at first you don't succeed....

Silencer with no label on. It must have been Sheila.
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« Reply #122 on: March 29, 2025, 02:08:PM »
Cook & Sgt Bernard's WS are online.

Cook moved Sheila's hands during photographs to show blood stains on her nightdress.

Think the CT are being optimistic saying Cook picked it up then opened & closed it pre photos. No reason to.
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« Reply #123 on: March 29, 2025, 05:05:PM »
The New Yorker article has been sent to the CCRC for them to consider, along with the 1,000+ page March 2021 submissions and the two more recent submissions.

Even more recent to that, they have also sent the CCRC a picture of the silencer without a label as further proof of there being two silencers.

I can see there will be some very unhappy bunnies here in the not too distant future.
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« Reply #124 on: March 29, 2025, 05:17:PM »
But then Bamber would have the burden of proof. He would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they had framed him or helped frame him.

If he lost the case, he would have a massive Costs Order against him.

Are we talking about JB bringing a private prosecution against his relatives for framing him resulting in his conviction/incarceration or loss of his inheritance or both? 

If he is acquitted it will only be on very compelling grounds in which case I am sure the judicial system would want to see him restored to a position financially to the one he would have been in had he not been found guilty ie inherited his parents estate circa 500k gross in 1985.  In which case the relatives would have to settle.  I doubt it would go to court.  Lawyers for all sides (Eatons, Boutflours, Pargeters and Woods) would agree best to settle out of court.   
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« Reply #125 on: March 29, 2025, 05:25:PM »
Are we talking about JB bringing a private prosecution against his relatives for framing him resulting in his conviction/incarceration or loss of his inheritance or both? 

If he is acquitted it will only be on very compelling grounds in which case I am sure the judicial system would want to see him restored to a position financially to the one he would have been in had he not been found guilty ie inherited his parents estate circa 500k gross in 1985.  In which case the relatives would have to settle.  I doubt it would go to court.  Lawyers for all sides (Eatons, Boutflours, Pargeters and Woods) would agree best to settle out of court.

Even if he is acquitted, the relatives could still argue in a civil court that on balance of probability, he killed his family.

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« Reply #126 on: March 30, 2025, 01:57:PM »
But then Bamber would have the burden of proof. He would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they had framed him or helped frame him.
If he lost the case, he would have a massive Costs Order against him.

Maybe so, but he would want revenge and I believe he'd go down this route.
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« Reply #127 on: March 30, 2025, 02:14:PM »
Maybe so, but he would want revenge and I believe he'd go down this route.

Believe his final years would be -

A cheeky compo claim from the legal system. Similar to Barry George & Sion Jenkins, fail.

Would also look to make money from media deals as quickly as possible.

Then he would want some jolly ups as a famous person. Who knows, Brett might re surface.

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« Reply #128 on: March 30, 2025, 02:37:PM »
Believe his final years would be -

A cheeky compo claim from the legal system. Similar to Barry George & Sion Jenkins, fail.

Would also look to make money from media deals as quickly as possible.

Then he would want some jolly ups as a famous person. Who knows, Brett might re surface.

He told Lomax he intended to buy a Russian bride.

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« Reply #129 on: March 30, 2025, 02:39:PM »
Then he would want some jolly ups as a famous person. Who knows, Brett might re surface.

Like anything the hype would die down and he'd be left to face his own battles.

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