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Offline BarefootDanC

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Re: I can't think of one reason why it might have been Sheila
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2025, 05:03:PM »
Where is it stated that the station clock was definitely out by 10 minutes? West stated that it was 'on occasion' inaccurate but on 'very FEW occasions'. Bamber made a BIG thing about West being a liar when he recorded 3:36 and that he did that on purpose. Now of course, he claims Nevill called the police so abandoned the West perjury claim and agree's he called at 3:36.  ;D.

The other point being that the station clock was digital - how often do digital clocks run fast? West clearly either read the clock wrong or he entered the time at the end of the call and not the beginning.

One reason why Rivlin drew attention to Jeremy's call time being 3:26 rather than 3:36 is because if 3:36 was in fact the correct time, this would mean that Jeremy definitely called Julie before the police, even if he called Julie as late as around 3:30.

The defence sequence of events was:

1) Nevill called Jeremy at 3:10, Jeremy tried calling Nevill back
2) Jeremy called the local police around 3:25, spoke to PC West who spoke to PC Bonnet at 3:26
3) Jeremy's call to the local police ended around 3:30
4) Jeremy called Julie around 3:30

Had Jeremy called Julie before calling the police (at 3:36), that would sound suspicious to the jury!

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Re: I can't think of one reason why it might have been Sheila
« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2025, 05:12:PM »
One reason why Rivlin drew attention to Jeremy's call time being 3:26 rather than 3:36 is because if 3:36 was in fact the correct time, this would mean that Jeremy definitely called Julie before the police, even if he called Julie as late as around 3:30.

The defence sequence of events was:

1) Nevill called Jeremy at 3:10, Jeremy tried calling Nevill back
2) Jeremy called the local police around 3:25, spoke to PC West who spoke to PC Bonnet at 3:26
3) Jeremy's call to the local police ended around 3:30
4) Jeremy called Julie around 3:30

Had Jeremy called Julie before calling the police (at 3:36), that would sound suspicious to the jury!

4 minutes. That is a quick call.

Bamber had to give West information. West had to write it down.

Then West had to phone another station and pass the information on to Bonnett. He had to write it down.

Bamber complained about how long it was taking.

Then West had to speak to Bamber again.
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Offline Zoso

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Re: I can't think of one reason why it might have been Sheila
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2025, 07:50:PM »
One reason why Rivlin drew attention to Jeremy's call time being 3:26 rather than 3:36 is because if 3:36 was in fact the correct time, this would mean that Jeremy definitely called Julie before the police, even if he called Julie as late as around 3:30.

The defence sequence of events was:

1) Nevill called Jeremy at 3:10, Jeremy tried calling Nevill back
2) Jeremy called the local police around 3:25, spoke to PC West who spoke to PC Bonnet at 3:26
3) Jeremy's call to the local police ended around 3:30
4) Jeremy called Julie around 3:30

Had Jeremy called Julie before calling the police (at 3:36), that would sound suspicious to the jury!

He DID call Julie first.

Offline Curiosity

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Re: I can't think of one reason why it might have been Sheila
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2025, 08:01:PM »
He DID call Julie first.
And told her - "Everything's goin' well, There's trouble at'mill".
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Re: I can't think of one reason why it might have been Sheila
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2025, 01:29:AM »
And told her - "Everything's goin' well, There's trouble at'mill".

Whatever he said, he called her first.

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Re: I can't think of one reason why it might have been Sheila
« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2025, 10:48:PM »
He said that Nevill called him around 3:10, then tried calling him back, then spent around 10 minutes looking up the number for the police in the phone book. His time was recorded at 3:26.

This is all academic. Other evidence shows that he called Julie at 3am.

There is no evidence regarding the phone calls.  It was 1985 not 2025.  Today it would be to the second.  All times are approx. 
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