Refer or not!

[ILB]

Really?  What's your definition of "very wealthy"? 

To be on a Dorset beach, to go to the supermarket and buy a mango, to have a pot noodle in front or the TV, to enjoy the ballet, to enjoy a simple meal in the local cafe 😀

After 40 years behind the door, a good nights sleep. But you did get my earlier point in what I put anyway.

[Cambridgecutie]

Read what I said.

Book deals, tv interviews, etc etc, story exclusives. The hype would die down. But the story is fascinating.

You know this. We all perceive this.

I did read what you said and you didn't mention book deals etc.  Even former PM's autobiographies don't net that much.  Why would book authors, tv interviews, story exclusives with JB net him more?  How would it be of interest to the public?  The monotony and minutiae of prison life: 'I saved a few crumbs from my stale white bread roll and fed them to a sparrow through my cell window'    'Once a bird magnet, always a bird magnet' 

[ILB]

I did read what you said and you didn't mention book deals etc.  Even former PM's autobiographies don't net that much.  Why would book authors, tv interviews, story exclusives with JB net him more?  How would it be of interest to the public?  The monotony and minutiae of prison life: 'I saved a few crumbs from my stale white bread roll and fed them to a sparrow through my cell window'    'Once a bird magnet, always a bird magnet' 

Haha

Don't be argumentative for the sake of it

[ILB]

I did read what you said and you didn't mention book deals etc.  Even former PM's autobiographies don't net that much.  Why would book authors, tv interviews, story exclusives with JB net him more?  How would it be of interest to the public?  The monotony and minutiae of prison life: 'I saved a few crumbs from my stale white bread roll and fed them to a sparrow through my cell window'    'Once a bird magnet, always a bird magnet' 

Rumour has it you are putting him up in your spare bedroom till he gets a place   

[handyman]

Really?  The fact you perceive it this way does not mean everyone else will!  How is he going to become very wealthy?  What's your definition of "very wealthy"? 

Even if his conviction is overturned no one is going to declare him innocent.  Many will still consider him guilty.  And no one knows how the youger generations will view the case who were either not around or too young to remember.  Then there's a large immigrant population most of whom are probably unfamiliar with the case.  What role would SM play?  Would someone want to take a pop at him?  PR dream?  Or disaster?

If released he'll probably end up the same as David Baine. Down here in NZ half the population still think he's guilty.
But what ever happens I cannot see Mr Bamber getting the re-trial which he should have got decades ago.

[Cambridgecutie]

If released he'll probably end up the same as David Baine. Down here in NZ half the population still think he's guilty.
But what ever happens I cannot see Mr Bamber getting the re-trial which he should have got decades ago.

Hey, I didn't realise you're from my favourite wine producing country!  Welcome!

No he will never secure a retrial as almost all the exhibits have been destroyed and many witnesses are deceased.  The best he can hope for is a CoA hearing and acquittal.

Yes I think you're right if he is acquitted there will be many who still think him guilty.

[Cambridgecutie]

Haha

Don't be argumentative for the sake of it

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it    I just don't see an acquittal as a panacea.  I guarantee there will be many who will still consider JB guilty.  As I said it will depend on how the younger generations perceive it and air it on SM.  Hacks for the mainstream are in the main lazy fcukers.  They will go with what's easiest and what sells. 

Then you will have pressure from victim groups who are set up to support the likes of Colin Caffell.  Who undoubtedly is a victim.  Publishing groups and production companies, who have a brand to protect, will need to be mindful of this.

The relatives are likely to come out of it badly.  Particularly AE's avarice which is on display for all to see.  Most will call into her question her ability to move into WHF shortly aftewards and remain thereafter. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Rumour has it you are putting him up in your spare bedroom till he gets a place   

JackieD thinks he should go and stay with her friend who lives on a sparsely populated island to enable him to readjust 

[Jane]

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it    I just don't see an acquittal as a panacea.  I guarantee there will be many who will still consider JB guilty.  As I said it will depend on how the younger generations perceive it and air it on SM.  Hacks for the mainstream are in the main lazy fcukers.  They will go with what's easiest and what sells. 

Then you will have pressure from victim groups who are set up to support the likes of Colin Caffell.  Who undoubtedly is a victim.  Publishing groups and production companies, who have a brand to protect, will need to be mindful of this.

The relatives are likely to come out of it badly.  Particularly AE's avarice which is on display for all to see.  Most will call into her question her ability to move into WHF shortly aftewards and remain thereafter.

Can two years really be considered as being "shortly afewards"? To my knowledge, WHF was rented from a Trust. I imagine, that after the initial interest in the massacre had died down, all potentials were seriously vetted! Not that I think there'd have been queues of them. Not many would relish the idea, I imagine? It maybe, that rather than let it stand empty, Ann and her family were invited to take up the tenancy?

[ILB]

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it    I just don't see an acquittal as a panacea.  I guarantee there will be many who will still consider JB guilty.  As I said it will depend on how the younger generations perceive it and air it on SM.  Hacks for the mainstream are in the main lazy fcukers.  They will go with what's easiest and what sells. 

Then you will have pressure from victim groups who are set up to support the likes of Colin Caffell.  Who undoubtedly is a victim.  Publishing groups and production companies, who have a brand to protect, will need to be mindful of this.

The relatives are likely to come out of it badly.  Particularly AE's avarice which is on display for all to see.  Most will call into her question her ability to move into WHF shortly aftewards and remain thereafter.

I don't think JB after 40 years of imprisonment would probably give a shit what people thought on the event of an aquittal. He is 64 years old, he went away at 24. His life has been obliterated anyway. At this stage in his life if he is freed it's a case of salvaging some kind of life ( from his personal perspective)

He's lived on the landings with some of the UKs most dangerous people ( of which he himself is currently deemed as being) he is thick skinned and hardened.

[Cambridgecutie]

Can two years really be considered as being "shortly afewards"? To my knowledge, WHF was rented from a Trust. I imagine, that after the initial interest in the massacre had died down, all potentials were seriously vetted! Not that I think there'd have been queues of them. Not many would relish the idea, I imagine? It maybe, that rather than let it stand empty, Ann and her family were invited to take up the tenancy?

I don't know exactly when she moved in.  The murders took place nearly 40 years ago.  If she moved in around 2 years afterwards that's around 5% of 40 years, so yes I think most would consider "shortly afterwards" an apt description.  Even if it was yesterday the fact she is happy to call such a place 'home' would I am sure offend most people. 

[ILB]

Can two years really be considered as being "shortly afewards"? To my knowledge, WHF was rented from a Trust. I imagine, that after the initial interest in the massacre had died down, all potentials were seriously vetted! Not that I think there'd have been queues of them. Not many would relish the idea, I imagine? It maybe, that rather than let it stand empty, Ann and her family were invited to take up the tenancy?

Whitehouse farm remained vacated until 1990 when AE and PE took up tenancy.

[Cambridgecutie]

I don't think JB after 40 years of imprisonment would probably give a shit what people thought on the event of an aquittal. He is 64 years old, he went away at 24. His life has been obliterated anyway. At this stage in his life if he is freed it's a case of salvaging some kind of freedom. ( from his personal perspective)

He's lived on the landings with some of the UKs most dangerous people ( of which he himself is currently deemed as being) he is thick skinned and hardened.

Living in a Cat A prison for almost 40 years is completely different to living on the outside as a 'free' man.  No one has any idea how he would adjust including JB.

[Cambridgecutie]

Whitehouse farm remained vacated until 1990 when AE and PE took up tenancy.

Please provide a source.

[ILB]

Living in a Cat A prison for almost 40 years is completely different to living on the outside as a 'free' man.  No one has any idea how he would adjust including JB.

That is correct.